Awe and marvels of the universe ought to lead one to examine it closely, weigh all the facts and make a rational judgment on the basis of the facts. That is what scientists do, albeit just on the surface as I am doing. Maybe you can disprove those things with opposite evidence.

I will ask myself a question that you would have been thrilled to ask me to pin me down with. Creationists believe all animals were created and if they were created they were created vegan vegetarian according to Genesis1;30. Right?

Therefore rational minds would ask, what about the carnivore? For example, the lion, his digestive tract and his teeth are obviously designed to rip flesh apart and eat meat, right? How could it be claimed they ate vegetables and vegetation? Thats ridiculous! Only mad people like YW can claim such a thing!

So how can a creationist wriggle out of this one?

The presence of the kali canine tooth or carnivorous digestive tract in a carnivore is not proof of evolution (or no creation) to be a carnivore. Other animals have both the teeth and digestive tracts but are not carnivores.

A bear has a similar teeth and it eats salmon, which is flesh, during the salmon run. But what does the bear eat for the rest of the year? Berries and succulent grass!

The panda bear has all the features of of a carnivore; the teeth, the digestive system etc and to crown it, is even classified as a carnivore. But make a wild guess what its diet is. Why should it evolve to eat bamboo with such ferocious canines with a fitting digestive tract?

Why the discrepancy? Who can answer this anomaly? Which logical non-creationism explanation can be made for this circumstance?

Well someone once said ´cursed be the ground´ among other things. Diets for whatever lived off the ground then changed. It changed for the lion... the lion now becomes the evidence.

So I have proof that a ´carnivore´ with the powerful canine and digestive tract can chew vegetation and digest it and live happily ever after just as it says in Genesis 1:30.

I have given just two animals that led me to an intellectually honest conclusion of an intelligent design, not chance.

One entity so far has claimed to be creator. Evolution (no creation) is the one with innumerable conjectures.

Do we have a historian (a religious historian specifically - or enthusiast) in the house? Stand up and be counted!!!
Now, paganism is not the same as satanism. Wikipedia says it translates to "country dweller" and "extended to contemporary religions".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism#Etymology
I will take broad liberties here and approximate the old Norse, Roman and Greek religions to paganism.

Which brings me to the icon of the trident. The trident was the weapon of Poseidon and Shiva. Hindus believe in some form of devil, right?
In christian iconology, the trident is satan's weapon.
What would you make of the scenario where a trident flashes briefly in a music video? as a christian? as a hindu? as a pagan? Is it good or evil?
Does the trident make Shiva the devil in a Christian's eyes? What does this tell you of symbolism?

Tokyo, the disconnect between increase in religion and increase in wickedness is incomprehensible. Except if the religion is one and the same with the wickedness. So increase in one mutually raises the other. Something I have been yapping about for some time now for whoever cares to listen.

But to deviate from the thread a little and to answer Vky, God can be proved alright.

It just takes a curious and analytical mind. (Thats why I find myself more at loggerheads with the typical christian who advocates for emotions, you know, ´powerful preaching´, experiential religion and all that than with atheists or evolutionists etc).

In Job 12:7 God challenges us to ask the beasts, fowls of the air, the earth and fishes of the sea. Ati they will tell us they were created by Him.

So lets ask one of them, the fish, e.g. Mr. shark who resides in the sea. ´Mr. Shark, you are a vertebrate, so how do you get rid of salt and achieve osmoregulation?´

Well, marine animals have kidneys whose glomerulus and loop of henle is so adapted not to loose water and achieve a hyperosmotic urine.

But why would a marine animal have those 2 things to begin with?

That does not match evolution (or no creation). They should have no glomerulus at all (however cleverly adapted) if they evolved from a single cell in that saline environment! Why would they evolve with something they obviously dont need?

Unless of course they were not originally in that environment. But evolution (or no creation) states everything evolved from the sea! So that puts us at a quandary here, unless evolution (or no creation) is not true.

That would mean creation is true. The glomerulus in the vertebrate marine fish proves it. If creation is true, only one entity has claimed to be ´creator´.

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Just before we go back to entertainment, your argument disproves evolution more than anything else.

Nonetheless, you have a brilliant mind!

Seems these musicians are competing some of our church ministers and the only way to outmanouvre them is to make theirs satanic!!!!

Hmmmm...interesting. Not denying that some of those things happens, subliminal messages and stuff like that, but if you read too much into something, you'll find what you are looking for. Joanne Mutuku Nzioka must be a devil worshiper...because all her names have 6 letters forming 666, yada yada yada

thanks jamplu for asking that, it always puzzles me why it never happens in my church, and that gibberish people shout? why doesnt it happen to them on monday at work?......

The Nicki Minaj clip, they've added a bunch of irrelevant stuff. But if you check out her performance, she levitates, meaning she has been possessed and is now being controlled by another entity, the devil. Notice how all of them have alter egos? Beyonce's is Sasha Fierce, Nicki Minaj is Roman Zolanski, Gaga is Mother monster ( or some ish like that), JayZ is Hova ( as in Jehova). I dont know about you guys, but I turned off the radio and tv, especially tv.

@Lolest there is occultism there are people who practice things which can not be explained but i don't think cartoons are really into satanism yes the content is changing into more adult stuff and talk but super hero like stuff i don't think that is really satanic.

Last video
http://www.youtube.com/w...G14&feature=related
The great thing is the devil has no power if you deny him relevance.

@murenj you have basically described me to the dot.

1. have cheap rings
2. i come to work at 5am
3. i lock myself in the office....im the boss
4. wall hangings in my office are my art collection
5. I don't really hate born agains. Just can't stand them
6. the kiondo in my car was a present from my cucu
7. specific staff members may have done a lousy job
8. as for firing, heck i met their families so i have to think hard about firing them.


My goodness, I'm now an avowed "devil worshipper".