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gatoho
#301 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 2:57:59 PM
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Odec wrote:
GGK wrote:
keke2 wrote:
[quote=Foz00]Hey guys,

I intend to construct both a septic tank and soak pit of dimensions W 2m * L 3m * D 6m for a 40 unit flat of bedsit & 1 bedroom on a site that is a back-filled quarry with mixture of murram, hardcore & clay. What is the cost of manual excavation per cubic foot if i sub-contract the locals for this.



In terms of the volume, your dimensions are Ok assuming about 70 persons will be using it. However, as someone pointed out, 6M sounds too deep.

The fellaz charge per foot depth not cubic foot. budget kitu 10k per foot. Once you hit the solid rock, that fee can even double


Bargain start with 3k even 2k as the 1st 4ft they excavate very fast then add when the hit ROCK.

then ensure its a perfect square



What is a good depth for septic where a 4 bed mansion and sq is concerned?
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Odec
#302 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 12:58:40 PM
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20Feet if possible on a 20 by 10 ft
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Ash Ock
#303 Posted : Friday, March 09, 2012 6:12:18 PM
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@A4architect,

Could you kindly explain what a waffle slab is and whether it is in use in Kenya for residential houses?

I have seen a certain company advertising it in the dailies and they claim to be able to help save 50% of the slab construction costs.
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kamundu
#304 Posted : Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:57:09 PM
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@ ash ock They are concrete blocks that you lay side by side then you pour your mix on top. The slab is thinner and you save on metal. However the inside ceiling is quite ugly if you ask me
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#305 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:14:17 PM
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@ash ock..these are hollow blocks made of clay or concrete that are laid in suspended slabs so as to reduce the volume of reinforced concrete hence making the slab cheaper.

The ones being advertised are good as long as you involve your independent structural engineer to design for you.

The sellers also offer structural engineering services.

Their design is often rejected by my engineers. Coincidentally, both the langata building and kasarani building that recently collapsed had used these blocks.

The reason why both collapsed is coz both did not employ services of registered architects and engineers and not coz of the quality of the blocks .
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Ash Ock
#306 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:18:37 PM
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kamundu wrote:
@ ash ock They are concrete blocks that you lay side by side then you pour your mix on top. The slab is thinner and you save on metal. However the inside ceiling is quite ugly if you ask me


Thanks for the information. I also used google and found that this system is quite heavily used in Australia, among other countries.

But you're right; using it for a second floor slab will leave a pretty ugly looking ceiling on the ground floor.

a4architect.com wrote:
Their design is often rejected by my engineers. Coincidentally, both the langata building and kasarani building that recently collapsed had used these blocks.

The reason why both collapsed is coz both did not employ services of registered architects and engineers and not coz of the quality of the blocks .


Now that is some kind of scary thought.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Rollins
#307 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:58:45 AM
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Good people, can anyone advise whether a Mukinduri tree can produce timber for roofing. i got one on my plot where i'm planning to build a bungalow.
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#308 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:24:01 PM
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Rollins wrote:
Good people, can anyone advise whether a Mukinduri tree can produce timber for roofing. i got one on my plot where i'm planning to build a bungalow.


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madhaquer
#309 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:21:57 PM
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Rollins wrote:
Good people, can anyone advise whether a Mukinduri tree can produce timber for roofing. i got one on my plot where i'm planning to build a bungalow.


I doubt you will get any straight timber over 5 feet long from that tree.
You can use it for building a scaffolding though
jerry
#310 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:26:35 PM
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GGK wrote:
Rollins wrote:
Good people, can anyone advise whether a Mukinduri tree can produce timber for roofing. i got one on my plot where i'm planning to build a bungalow.


Mukinduri ni mti ya makaa


Why makaa?
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madhaquer
#311 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 9:17:53 AM
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I'm looking to buy mazeras stones, anybody with info where I can get this in Nairobi.
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#312 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 5:31:30 PM
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Nairobi West area opposite TMall..
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kamundu
#313 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 7:13:35 PM
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Limuru road near runda gate or opposite the polish embassy near village market
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Eddy
#314 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 7:42:56 PM
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Mazeras yenyewe on Mombasa road......

willin2learn
#315 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:26:37 PM
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@Jaggernaut,

Please share with a brother your building experience. My QS's estimate put me off as its' almost 150% of my budget.

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Odec
#316 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:55:46 AM
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madhaquer wrote:

I'm looking to buy mazeras stones, anybody with info where I can get this in Nairobi.





is it expensive compared to normal blocks and is it complicated to install
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Odec
#317 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:57:55 AM
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Eddy wrote:
Mazeras yenyewe on Mombasa road......




Were exactly in Mombasa road contacts if possible.
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jamplu
#318 Posted : Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:58:52 AM
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Odec wrote:
Eddy wrote:
Mazeras yenyewe on Mombasa road......




Were exactly in Mombasa road contacts if possible.



Mazeras is between Miritini and Mariakani. You can also get the same stones after mariakani there are guyz along the road who deal.
Rahatupu
#319 Posted : Friday, April 27, 2012 9:57:03 AM
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jamplu wrote:
Odec wrote:
Eddy wrote:
Mazeras yenyewe on Mombasa road......




Were exactly in Mombasa road contacts if possible.



Mazeras is between Miritini and Mariakani. You can also get the same stones after mariakani there are guyz along the road who deal.


Go to Galana in Malindi along the Sabaki River and collect the pieces for free!
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#320 Posted : Friday, April 27, 2012 12:34:46 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
jamplu wrote:
Odec wrote:
Eddy wrote:
Mazeras yenyewe on Mombasa road......




Were exactly in Mombasa road contacts if possible.



Mazeras is between Miritini and Mariakani. You can also get the same stones after mariakani there are guyz along the road who deal.


Go to Galana in Malindi along the Sabaki River and collect the pieces for free!


Some enterprising Kenyan should take the opportunity to cut and polish them to as below pic
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