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Easter bunnies and eggs?!!!
Julie
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:43:09 PM
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Just been asked a very tough question by my son...when are easter bunnies coming home?d'oh! Liar
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#2 Posted : Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:33:26 PM
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Julie, if I may ask where have eggs come from? maybe I am confused here Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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masukuma
#3 Posted : Friday, April 06, 2012 9:15:44 AM
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some wazunguz managed to turn Christmas into santa claus and easter into easter bunnies/eggs.
ambia mtoto that Easter is about Jesus and his finished work on the cross!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Lolest!
#4 Posted : Friday, April 06, 2012 9:25:39 AM
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masukuma wrote:
some wazunguz managed to turn Christmas into santa claus and easter into easter bunnies/eggs.
ambia mtoto that Easter is about Jesus and his finished work on the cross!

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Shak
#5 Posted : Friday, April 06, 2012 12:40:43 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
some wazunguz managed to turn Christmas into santa claus and easter into easter bunnies/eggs.
ambia mtoto that Easter is about Jesus and his finished work on the cross!

Applause Applause


In the US, Good Friday and Easter Monday are not holidays.
masukuma
#6 Posted : Friday, April 06, 2012 1:38:16 PM
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Shak wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
some wazunguz managed to turn Christmas into santa claus and easter into easter bunnies/eggs.
ambia mtoto that Easter is about Jesus and his finished work on the cross!

Applause Applause


In the US, Good Friday and Easter Monday are not holidays.

you mean its not a 'banking' holiday? pole kwao!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
otienosmall
#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 6:47:21 AM
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Julie wrote:
Just been asked a very tough question by my son...when are easter bunnies coming home?d'oh! Liar



Easter eggs and Easter bunnies
There is nothing Christian about any of these symbols. The true history of these fertility symbols, rabbits and eggs, is completely unknown to all the unsuspecting children who have been led by adults to think them so special. The entire concept that these are Christian is a lie foisted on innocent children.

Quoting; The True Origin of Easter BY DAVID C. PACK

Where Did Easter Come From?
Does the following sound familiar?—Spring is in the air! Flowers and bunnies decorate the home. Father helps the children paint beautiful designs on eggs dyed in various colors. These eggs, which will later be hidden and searched for, are placed into lovely, seasonal baskets. The wonderful aroma of the hot cross buns mother is baking in the oven waft through the house. Forty days of abstaining from special foods will finally end the next day. The whole family picks out their Sunday best to wear to the next morning’s sunrise worship service to celebrate the savior’s resurrection and the renewal of life. Everyone looks forward to a succulent ham with all the trimmings. It will be a thrilling day. After all, it is one of the most important religious holidays of the year.

Easter, right? No! This is a description of an ancient Babylonian family—2,000 years before Christ—honouring the resurrection of their god, Tammuz, who was brought back from the underworld by his mother/wife, Ishtar (after whom the festival was named). As Ishtar was actually pronounced “Easter” in most Semitic dialects, it could be said that the event portrayed here is, in a sense, Easter. Of course, the occasion could easily have been a Phrygian family honouring Attis and Cybele, or perhaps a Phoenician family worshipping Adonis and Astarte. Also fitting the description well would be a heretic Israelite family honouring the Canaanite Baal and Ashtoreth. Or this depiction could just as easily represent any number of other immoral, pagan fertility celebrations of death and resurrection—including the modern Easter celebration as it has come to us through the Anglo-Saxon fertility rites of the goddess Eostre or Ostara. These are all the same festivals, separated only by time and culture.

“In Babylonia…the goddess of spring was called Ishtar. She was identified with the planet Venus, which, because…[it] rises before the Sun…or sets after it…appears to love the light [this means Venus loves the sun-god]…In Phoenecia, she became Astarte; in Greece, Eostre [related to the Greek word Eos: “dawn”], and in Germany, Ostara [this comes from the German word Ost: “east,” which is the direction of dawn]” The goddess Easter was one goddess with many names—the goddess of fertility, worshipped in spring when all life was being renewed.

Eggs, Egg Hunts and Easter
Eggs have always been associated with the Easter celebration. Nearly every culture in the modern world has a long tradition of colouring eggs in beautiful and different ways. “The origin of the Easter egg is based on the fertility lore of the Indo-European races…The egg to them was a symbol of spring…In Christian times the egg had bestowed upon it a religious interpretation, becoming a symbol of the rock tomb out of which Christ emerged to the new life of His resurrection” (Francis X. Weiser, Handbook of Christian Feasts and Customs, p. 233). This is a direct example of exactly how pagan symbols and customs are “Christianized,” i.e., Christian-sounding names are superimposed over pagan customs. This is done to deceive—as well as make people feel better about why they are following a custom that is not in the Bible.

“Eggs were hung up in the Egyptian temples. Bunsen calls attention to the mundane egg, the emblem of generative life, proceeding from the mouth of the great god of Egypt. The mystic egg of Babylon, hatching the Venus Ishtar, fell from heaven to the Euphrates. Dyed eggs were sacred Easter offerings in Egypt, as they are still in China and Europe. Easter, or spring, was the season of birth, terrestrial and celestial.”

The Easter Bunny
No one has ever been able to connect the Easter bunny to anything Christian, let alone to the Bible: “The Easter bunny is not a true Christian symbol” (John Bradner, Symbols of Church Seasons and Days, p. 52), and “Although adopted in a number of Christian cultures, the Easter bunny has never received any specific Christian interpretation” (Mirsea Eliade, The Encyclopedia of Religion, p. 558). None of this will stop scores of millions of professing Christians from decorating their lawns and houses with Easter bunnies each spring.

Consider this last quote: “The hare, the symbol of fertility in ancient Egypt, a symbol that was kept later in Europe…Its place has been taken by the Easter rabbit” (Encyclopedia Britannica, 1991 ed., Vol. 4, p. 333). Even in modern times, rabbits have remained common symbols of fertility. While their rapid rate of reproduction is well known, another problem arises with rabbits—they do not lay eggs! While both are clearly fertility symbols, there is no logical way to connect them. In a world filled with pagan tradition, truth and logic can be lost. Merging these symbols with Christianity makes an already idolatrous practice worse.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:06:32 AM
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Julie wrote:
Just been asked a very tough question by my son...when are easter bunnies coming home?d'oh! Liar



when questions like that come you just pick the next newspaper next to you cover your face and start reading it !
YesuWangu
#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:20:44 AM
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otienosmall wrote:
Merging these symbols with Christianity makes an already idolatrous practice worse.



Otienosmall, yours is an interesting read. But I dont think the last word is correct, in the light of the facts you have presented.

Instead of 'worse' I think the most appropriate word should be 'suave'.

Get my drift?
otienosmall
#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:14:15 AM
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YesuWangu wrote:
otienosmall wrote:
Merging these symbols with Christianity makes an already idolatrous practice worse.



Otienosmall, yours is an interesting read. But I dont think the last word is correct, in the light of the facts you have presented.

Instead of 'worse' I think the most appropriate word should be 'suave'.

Get my drift?



“suave!” had to borrow the wisdom of a dictionary to clutch the drift…. When it comes to matters Christianity and beliefs, it’s better to follow blindly coz if you dig a little you might end up an atheist
Lolest!
#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:27:40 AM
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@otieno, I do not dispute your views on the bunny and eggs(which most Kenyans dont use anyway) but I am very OK with Easter celebrations.
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YesuWangu
#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:07:10 PM
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otienosmall wrote:
YesuWangu wrote:
otienosmall wrote:
Merging these symbols with Christianity makes an already idolatrous practice worse.



Otienosmall, yours is an interesting read. But I dont think the last word is correct, in the light of the facts you have presented.

Instead of 'worse' I think the most appropriate word should be 'suave'.

Get my drift?



“suave!” had to borrow the wisdom of a dictionary to clutch the drift…. When it comes to matters Christianity and beliefs, it’s better to follow blindly coz if you dig a little you might end up an atheist



Not so. It is dangerous to follow blindly.

The bible places emphasis on akili and requires you to use it and not to follow others blindly.

You are called upon to 'reason' and 'not to be like the horse or mule which have no understanding' etc.

This is not to be confused with academic stuff or grades scored in school.

So, about Tammuz, how much brain does it take to decide that it and its ceremonies are displeasing to your God, especially when He has told you it is an 'abomination'?
Julie
#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 1:32:16 PM
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Very informative! Doubt if my young ones will understand this! But will leave it to their CRE teacher(s). smile
Lolest!
#14 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:04:41 PM
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Easter cannot be the feast of Tammuz or whichever other god unless we choose to worship them. If we believe in the death and resurrection of Christ and we choose to celebrate it on a certain date, nothing should stop us. Why do we celebrate Easter? Do we believe the deity of Jesus, his death for our sins and resurrection? Do we believe in the 1 true God? If we are in Christ, we ought not to worry about such things as origins of festivities as the earth is the Lords and everything in it. Hakuna siku ya shetani!
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YesuWangu
#15 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:48:35 PM
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Uncloaking the religions of old whose more objectionable features are veiled with a garb of chrisitanity is a process rather than an event.

While they formerly denounced Christ and the Bible, they now professe to accept both. But the Bible is interpreted in a manner that is pleasing to the unrenewed heart, while its solemn and vital truths are made of no effect.

Love is dwelt upon as the chief attribute of God, but it is degraded to a weak sentimentalism, making little distinction between good and evil. God’s justice, His denunciations of sin, the requirements of His holy law, are all kept out of sight.

Painfully, to those out of the system, individuals still in the system to whom these things are being revealed view such an exposure of these deceptions as an affront to their persons rather than an affront to the system.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:54:36 PM
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Whatever!!! Got my 4 days of deserved rest.
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