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Where are the commissioned fire engines?
Mtu Biz
#21 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:22:09 PM
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alma wrote:
I get a lot of flack when I say that the problem with Kenya is not buildings but the people running these buildings....

So all of a sudden the mayor finds out he doesn't have fire equipment, the town clerk looks like a deer in the headlights, the gov't is silent and we all want to blame the tenants for not backing up data and the building owners for not having sprinkler systems.

It reminds me of the Konza thread, where the solution is not to fix the underlying mismanagement but to transfer the mismanagement to a whole new city.

Only when we come to terms that our education system has rewarded incompetent managers with degrees and masters while sacrificing managers who actually perform their duties who are too busy to go for evening classes at strathmore, shall we move forward.

The next building will not be Times towers, it will be your house.



Not to demean the issue at hand lakini...

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jamplu
#22 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:58:05 PM
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alma wrote:
Don't worry Elder...I'm sure jamplu is right now sitting on a fire proof leather seat, has a fire proof vest and he lives in a house with fire proof windows, doors and walls. He knows kisia's guys aren't prepared so he's fully prepared.

Even fireproof tomatoes that don't burn but simmer.



@ALMA ..... pang'ang'a tupu!
what if i did... would you vote me to be the mayor ama am a product of your so called bad education system so i don't qualify??







essyk
#23 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:34:58 PM
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Lets be real.If you own or occupy a building in the city and as a patriotic citizen pay taxes to the council don't you think they owe it to you to ensure your safety? What are councils for anyway? What are the monies remitted for?
Suppose there was a fire outbreak in all the major buildings simultaneously. Would the council cope?

Most companies contract private firms due to their efficiency.Does that speak well of the lame council which collects millions daily?
I now understand why the 8 engines disappeared as soon as they were commissioned.
Their services were needed for sure,but the clients (companies) do not trust the council's efficiency and management.
The council instead of building image by turning efficient instead became satisfied with their incompetency and decided to let the private co.do it on their behalf.
Talk about accepting and getting used to failure

And to imagine the city is doing better than most African cities.What if we made it a little more better?
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theman192000
#24 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:37:38 PM
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In the Citizen news clip I thought I heard the mayor say something about the new fire engines belonging to the Ministry of Metropolitan something or the other.

What ever happened to investigative journalism, someone must know where these new fire engines are. Anyone in Wazua in the know?
essyk
#25 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:30:07 PM
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http://www.nairobimetro....p;catid=3&Itemid=47
Nairobi Fire Department receives new Metz Aerial Ladder vehicle



Following an order from the Ministry of Nairobi Metropolitan Development, Metz Aerials has delivered an L56 aerial ladder to the Nairobi City Council Fire Department in Kenya. Together with several Rosenbauer pumper trucks, this customized piece of equipment forms an integral part of the “Nairobi Growth and Development Strategy” that has been drawn up for the booming Kenyan capital.

http://www.standardmedia...cid=4&currentPage=2
smile was speaking at KICC, Nairobi, Wednesday during the commissioning of fire fighting equipment bought by the Nairobi Metropolitan Ministry.

The equipment, which included THREE fire fighting engines, will be distributed to Nairobi City Council, Thika and Machakos Municipal councils

Now it means the NCC has only 1 modern truck.

Witnesses to the blaze said when the state-of-the art fire engine arrived, albeit late, the fire fighters appeared unsure how to operate the ladder.
Sad
“We could see them making calls asking for instructions on how to get the ladder up. By this time, the fire was burning out of control,
City residents and those affected by the fire demanded an explanation from the CCN, to know why fire fighters who rushed to the scene were ill-equipped to fight the blaze.


Is that truck in the hands of the council? how come they dint know how to operate it?

http://www.citizentv.co.ke/

Mayor: Na hizo(the 3)zilikua ni za ministry ya metropolitan.Na nataka tuseme ya kwamba, Ministry ya local Govermt na ya metropolitan,ningetaka zifanye kazi pamoja. The engines we have are small.We are not ready Sad Sad

Seriously, how do these two ministries work? Who is holding this truck since NCC have denied being in posession?? Is it no wonder the firefighters were unable to operate it?
Was it surrendered to the council by Metropolitan department as was reported in the dailies?
Naskia aibu sana.

And which trucks were we seeing at the scene anyway?
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nakujua
#26 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:46:08 PM
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alma wrote:
I get a lot of flack when I say that the problem with Kenya is not buildings but the people running these buildings....

So all of a sudden the mayor finds out he doesn't have fire equipment, the town clerk looks like a deer in the headlights, the gov't is silent and we all want to blame the tenants for not backing up data and the building owners for not having sprinkler systems.

It reminds me of the Konza thread, where the solution is not to fix the underlying mismanagement but to transfer the mismanagement to a whole new city.

Only when we come to terms that our education system has rewarded incompetent managers with degrees and masters while sacrificing managers who actually perform their duties who are too busy to go for evening classes at strathmore, shall we move forward.

The next building will not be Times towers, it will be your house.


enyewe we need people dedicated to doing their jobs, maybe the fire fighters were busy in class instead of learning how to operate the new machines
wilyum
#27 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:10:21 PM
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essyk wrote:
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nakujua Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:46:08 PM

alma wrote:
I get a lot of flack when I say that the problem with Kenya is not buildings but the people running these buildings....

So all of a sudden the mayor finds out he doesn't have fire equipment, the town clerk looks like a deer in the headlights, the gov't is silent and we all want to blame the tenants for not backing up data and the building owners for not having sprinkler systems.

It reminds me of the Konza thread, where the solution is not to fix the underlying mismanagement but to transfer the mismanagement to a whole new city.

Only when we come to terms that our education system has rewarded incompetent managers with degrees and masters while sacrificing managers who actually perform their duties who are too busy to go for evening classes at strathmore, shall we move forward.

The next building will not be Times towers, it will be your house.


enyewe we need people dedicated to doing their jobs, maybe the fire fighters were busy in class instead of learning how to operate the new machines
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essyk Posted: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:30:07 PM

http://www.nairobimetro....p;catid=3&Itemid=47
Nairobi Fire Department receives new Metz Aerial Ladder vehicle



Following an order from the Ministry of Nairobi Metropolitan Development, Metz Aerials has delivered an L56 aerial ladder to the Nairobi City Council Fire Department in Kenya. Together with several Rosenbauer pumper trucks, this customized piece of equipment forms an integral part of the “Nairobi Growth and Development Strategy” that has been drawn up for the booming Kenyan capital.

http://www.standardmedia...cid=4&currentPage=2
smile was speaking at KICC, Nairobi, Wednesday during the commissioning of fire fighting equipment bought by the Nairobi Metropolitan Ministry.

The equipment, which included THREE fire fighting engines, will be distributed to Nairobi City Council, Thika and Machakos Municipal councils

Now it means the NCC has only 1 modern truck.

Witnesses to the blaze said when the state-of-the art fire engine arrived, albeit late, the fire fighters appeared unsure how to operate the ladder.
Sad
“We could see them making calls asking for instructions on how to get the ladder up. By this time, the fire was burning out of control,
City residents and those affected by the fire demanded an explanation from the CCN, to know why fire fighters who rushed to the scene were ill-equipped to fight the blaze.


Is that truck in the hands of the council? how come they dint know how to operate it?

http://www.citizentv.co.ke/

Mayor: Na hizo(the 3)zilikua ni za ministry ya metropolitan.Na nataka tuseme ya kwamba, Ministry ya local Govermt na ya metropolitan,ningetaka zifanye kazi pamoja. The engines we have are small.We are not ready Sad Sad

Seriously, how do these two ministries work? Who is holding this truck since NCC have denied being in posession?? Is it no wonder the firefighters were unable to operate it?
Was it surrendered to the council by Metropolitan department as was reported in the dailies?
Naskia aibu sana.

And which trucks were we seeing at the scene anyway?
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and some fork jembe wants to vie for nairobery governmentlessss, nkt!
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Lolest!
#28 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:16:04 PM
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essyk wrote:

“We could see them making calls asking for instructions on how to get the ladder up. By this time, the fire was burning out of control,


Sad Sad
Whichever way you look at it, the CCN cannot escape blame.

If building owners do not have accessible hydrants, they would be liable to some blame but the CCN would also take a portion of the blame since they are the same council harassing property owners and managers who do not repaint their buildings.

If you have time to inspect paintwork, why shouldn't you ensure that hydrants are operational?
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Mtu Biz
#29 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:22:30 AM
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Shame on you
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#30 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:33:59 AM
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essyk
#31 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:06:34 PM
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 5:17:00 PM
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Speculz
#33 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:30:21 PM
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If I remember well ..aren't fires classified according to the cause ..... having Equipment will not really matter if its not the right equipment ,e.g fighting an oil fire /electrical fire with water ...
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