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I want to buy an apartment
xtina
#1 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 10:19:56 AM
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I want to buy an apartment. I have seen some very nice ones in Kinoo/Kikuyu.Stand alone houses are too expensive and the idea of buying a plot and building a house it is too tedious/boring and I just ain't doing it. I would rather buy and get over with it. What is the procedure? If I want someone to inspect the condition of the house, which professional should do this? And on the pricing, who can be able to tell me I'm getting value for my money? I really want to have objective, honest opinions.

For ladies who have done this (especially before you were married)how did you handle the living arrangements after getting married? Was he comfortable living in a house/flat/apartment you had bought? Nice day all!
FundamentAli
#2 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 12:10:11 PM
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@xtina,

Firstly, you need to look at the various apartments on offer and weigh the pros and cons of each apartments. Look at the accessibility, surrounding, projected future use of the neighbourhood, facilities, water supply, power, noise, pollution, nuisances etc. Remember you have to live with the distractions you see around and it may affect It is also advisable to talk to a valuer. If you can also look at the sellers background. Ask for a copy of title and get a valuer to check for you the status and whether it is mentioned in the Ndungu report. You have to personally verify location of plot at Land's by looking at the maps yourself vis-a-vis the title . Get the estimated value from a valuer. If all is fine, get a good lawyer who has a good experience and trustworthy with your money. Do not use developers lawyer. Ask his opinion of the sale before committing and happy buying.

I am not qualified to answer the second part, but am sure the ladies will tell you about their experience or give you further advice
jamplu
#3 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 12:36:24 PM
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You need to consider several things before committing to buy an apartment. Consider whether you can live with neighbors who won't even bother paying for a fresh coat of paint and who won't pay for the cleaning of the stairs and repairing of the gate once they knock it down.

If you are to be married get married to someone who owns their own house. Let your apartment be your investment. Don't be lied to that a man will be comfortable moving in to your house. There is pride and great satisfaction to a man taking his bride or wife to their new home and saying those important words "This is your New home".
For Sport
#4 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 12:51:16 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
@xtina,

I am not qualified to answer the second part, but am sure the ladies will tell you about their experience or give you further advice


Actually you are. You could tell a sister how you'd feel about moving into the wife's house..
keke2
#5 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 1:13:51 PM
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1.Valuer
2.Lawyer
3.Your Apartment is Your investment,let the man be the man.He will provide housing and you build the home.
madhaquer
#6 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 1:24:41 PM
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On the buying part I have lived in a purchased apartment and must admit that this business of dealing with neighbors is not easy.

1. you have to handle common issues like the service charges, security, public lighting, garbage collection, water shortage, parking, noisy kids, partying neighbors etc... For me it has been quite ok since I'm never home for more than a few hours in the evening, but if you want to spend a quiet day at home, that might not always work.

2. Check the surrounding, then check again closely.
If the surrounding area is built up, visit the place in different times ensure you have adequate lighting for your apartment most importantly note what developments are on the next plots. 2 apartments side by side are usually mosquito breeding grounds, with never enough lighting as one apartment's shadow falls on the other ones compound.

3. Get a warranty from the contractor, at least 6 months to a year.
Alot of the finishing in this houses for sale is poorly done and things like plumbing and leakages, may not be immediately noticeable, unfortunately a problem with structural soundness may never be noticed until it's too late.

:) buy the house when the guy comes and is not willing to live there, the least he can do is ask you to move to his higher value house.
Cardinal
#7 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 1:34:25 PM
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@xtina. I know you. Rem me?


Good to know you are buying an apartment.

Consider it as an investment ,coz if you get married you will have to relocate to your mans house

Also before buying it,visit the block several times and check the surrounding thoroughly. This will help me make up your mind.

Also be clear on service charges. Ie monthly trash collection fee. Etc.

Above all enjoy yourself,in your new apartment,

with a sense of freedom before you walk the aisle.
Kim2012
#8 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 3:04:24 PM
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As you do your research find a link below with options to consider for a great investment project for the future

http://www.canarysprings.kbo.co.ke/

Regards
MaichBlack
#9 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 3:16:21 PM
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madhaquer wrote:
1. you have to handle common issues like the service charges, security, public lighting, garbage collection,

Shouldn't all this be covered by the service charge?

@xtina - The man has to either be very *mature (or irresponsible) to agree to move into your house. Irresponsible men are many in Kenya/Nairobi but I don't think you want any of them. Mature men are rare, but they exist.

An apartment is a good idea especially for a single person or young family but you have to consider all the things wazuans have advised to - parking, neighbourhood etc.

*By mature I mean someone who is not threatened by a successful lady and who doesn't have chauvinistic tendencies. Someone who is ready to be the man but is also aware we are not in the fifties.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
FundamentAli
#10 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 3:54:04 PM
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For Sport wrote:
FundamentAli wrote:
@xtina,

I am not qualified to answer the second part, but am sure the ladies will tell you about their experience or give you further advice


Actually you are. You could tell a sister how you'd feel about moving into the wife's house..


@For Sport,

Am old skul. How can I leave my house behind to move into a lady's house? In our day's even sleeping overnight in a girl's place was a taboo. Things have changed and my views on the issue may sound stone age. Last night I witnessed a young boy aggressively trying to befriend a mature well to do lady without an invitation.
GGK
#11 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 4:27:43 PM
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I'll attempt to answer the questions.

Apartments tend to be better (security wise) but dealing with neighbors has always being a challenge. Consider it as an investment which you can rent out in future or house your college going kids. But make sure its well built up, title is clean and has no encumbrances, none of neighbors has intention of having an off-license pub e.t.c

Clearly everybody agrees here that your future spouse will provide shelter elsewhere, or you can ask him to buy your apartment back to it if by the time marry you are already too attached to it to move.

"..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
kourage
#12 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 4:48:25 PM
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@xtina, If interested, come to Migaa. A 3BR apartment is going for 8.5m in an 18 hole golf estate.
The Merchant
#13 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 4:57:00 PM
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@xtina...oh well i called some guy at propertysoko (real estate firm)..number 0722857112. He helped me much as I know little about apartments.
eco
#14 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 5:48:38 PM
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xtina wrote:
I want to buy an apartment. I have seen some very nice ones in Kinoo/Kikuyu.....


If one of your criteria is the Apartment being nice, then you will need to do some shopping. Take time and personally view these Apartments along Msa Rd. They will set your standards for thier kind very high. The developer concentrates in detail the livable area, and for me that's a plus. The common area though important is just that, common.
butterflyke
#15 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 8:37:35 PM
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I agree, don't use the developer's lawyers. Find your own and give time for a proper search. Check the leasehold period and type. Most developers do fast and cheap finishing, they are mostly in a lot of debt by then so be prepared to do repairs that may not be covered by the 6 month warranty. The neighbour bit is difficult, some do not even pay their service charge which complicates things for everyone else so be prepared like a brownie :).

If you have the patience, consider buying something that is still being constructed, it's usually cheaper and you only pay a %age at the beginning.

Regarding the men, naachia wengine :).

Go for it.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
butterflyke
#16 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 8:47:08 PM
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GGK
#17 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 9:59:35 PM
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I find the homes expo at KICC very informative and one stop shop. it will be there mid this month if am not mistakeni
"..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
mungaits
#18 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 11:39:29 PM
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@xtina, where exactly in kinoo are these apartments? Whats the specs and price?
danas10
#19 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:33:51 AM
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GGK wrote:
I find the homes expo at KICC very informative and one stop shop. it will be there mid this month if am not mistakeni


12th to 15th April. so many options to choose from and you can ask as many questions about the apartments/homes coz they will be on a marketing spree. Go for it.
Rahatupu
#20 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:58:43 AM
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GGK wrote:
I'll attempt to answer the questions.

Clearly everybody agrees here that your future spouse will provide shelter elsewhere, or you can ask him to buy your apartment back to it if by the time marry you are already too attached to it to move.



@GGK, This is not an option. When you buy the apartment all and sundry willknow who bought it. 3-10 years later your husband buys it from you, who will understand??
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