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2012		#31 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 9:00:12 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		Kratos wrote: If you are self employed, you pay 500/=irrespective of what you make per month So, if I'm self employed and I have an employee earning over 100k, he/she will pay 2k while I pay 500/-? Very interesting indeed. BBI will solve it :)
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Dash		#32 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 9:23:13 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi		2012 wrote: Kratos wrote: If you are self employed, you pay 500/=irrespective of what you make per month So, if I'm self employed and I have an employee earning over 100k, he/she will pay 2k while I pay 500/-? Very interesting indeed.
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mkeiyd		#33 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 9:36:59 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182		madhaquer wrote: NHIF needs to employ doctors and nurses. Sponsor needy medical students and build hospitals. This is one of those parastatals that lack a development minded vision. They collect billions, the claims are in the millions yet there is nothing much to show for it's excess. It will be interesting to see how they differentiate the self employed from the unemployed. They don't have to differentiate. If you go to them for cover and say you are self-employed, they will just treat you as such. Why would they bother to know that you are unemployed if you can pay?
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madhaquer		#34 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 9:37:23 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/10/2010 Posts: 281 Location: Nairobi		The challenge they have taken on is the free benefit to the unemployed. How do they prove that a claimant is unemployed ? How do they prove that a self employed person is not claiming to be unemployed ? How will they handle the huge number of foreseen 'unemployed claimants' ? With the 1 month they have given as the effective date, I sure hope they are working very hard in the background to get their act together.
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bwenyenye		#35 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 10:20:34 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 5/24/2007 Posts: 1,805		McReggae wrote: Robbery!!!.....it's twentetwerof!!! habari ndio hiyo!!! I Think Therefore I Am
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Impunity		#36 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 10:36:07 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada		2012 wrote: Kratos wrote: If you are self employed, you pay 500/=irrespective of what you make per month So, if I'm self employed and I have an employee earning over 100k, he/she will pay 2k while I pay 500/-? Very interesting indeed. Thiking outside the mbox. Imagine Njenga Karume paying 500 while his mboch paying 2000! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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mkeiyd		#37 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 10:38:58 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182		I think the free access we be to a very low limit,benefit wise. That will make it sensible to pay if you can afford. If you are self-employed and you make loads of cash, then no need for NHIF when you can afford Jubilee/Resolution etc.
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kimiri		#38 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 11:06:50 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 3/12/2008 Posts: 215		I am also quite unhappy with NHIF about this one. Like cotu says, why can’t the government cater for the health needs of the unemployed from the taxes it collects? But perhaps it is not all lost because COTU is planning to block the execution of the new rates pending the hearing and determination of an appeal it is planning to lodge (see link below). http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/3bbki5z/-/index.html
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pariah		#39 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 11:17:39 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 11/24/2011 Posts: 833		the entire middo crass misses the point, what kind of healthcare do u expect for 350 bob?
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theman192000		#40 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2012 11:42:18 AM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/11/2008 Posts: 401		FundamentAli wrote: This is a tax. We cannot ask them what they do with the money just like government tax. Yes we CAN ask the government what they do with our taxes. That is why treasury presents a budget. During the financial period ending June 2010, NHIF had claims of 3.1 billion from 2.8 million members. http://www.businessdaily.../-/iim5dfz/-/index.html At 320/- per member, annual revenues for the same period was 10.75B. Did the balance of 7.65B all go towards salaries and expenses?
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