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Ceinz
#11 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 9:55:47 PM
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Joined: 5/7/2009
Posts: 1,032
Location: Sea of Transquility
MaichBlack wrote:
Bloody Bure Kabisa!!!

Just when I think we've hit the bottom, a hole is dug!

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“small step for man”
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Magigi
#12 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 10:07:21 PM
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Joined: 3/31/2008
Posts: 7,081
Location: Kenya
MaichBlack wrote:
Bloody Bure Kabisa!!!

What the hell??? One cannot comment on the "Reshuffle" thread? This ill advised censorship and gagging has gone too far. I don't know what Lady Admin expects to achieve but I think she's way off the mark!

Whoever heads a particular ministry influences my investments & where I plan to put my money next and I'm not "allowed" to comment? Wazua must be the only Kenyan forum where this reshuffle will not be discussed. And wazuans will be the only group of Kenyans who are expected to assume this did not happen.

Just when I think we've hit the bottom, a hole is dug!

...Many years while I was serving my 3 months stint at NYS, Sergeant Githinji used to warn us before we attended the weekly talk by an invited guest...He would tell us..."Magigi dont ask stupid questions like why so and so was detained...ask useful questions like...Nani raisi wa Kenya?, Mvua ya msimu huu ikinyesha tutapanda mbegu gani na maswali ya aina hiyo..." Now go to Mbuzi season 6 and give us a recipe for Kachumbari...That is what Wazua has degenerated into.
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digitek1
#13 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 10:18:25 PM
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twololo Sad
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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bepari
#14 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 11:44:06 PM
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Joined: 12/6/2009
Posts: 108
Location: nairobi
Freedom of thought,conscience as enshrined in the constitution are God given and not even lady admin can take them away. She started being moi like now shes turned into a mugabe.
if you aint livin on the edge,you are taking too much space....
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redondo
#15 Posted : Monday, March 26, 2012 11:46:30 PM
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Joined: 12/2/2009
Posts: 161
Location: nairobi
I think that complaining over and over without proving that wazua as a community is mature enough to engage in positive politics will just harden the admins stance. Truth be told, the freedom of speech does not accord us the freedom to insult those of divergent views and in effect contribute in polarising this country. Perhaps as a sign of good faith, we can join in formulating the new rules/code of conduct for engaging. That would be a sign that we can self regulate.

On another note its now clear to me why wazungu wako mbele. Instead of mad slinging the way we do on wazua, their approach to politics is objective and action oriented. Check out this site

http://www.americanselect.org/

These guys are using the web to both contribute to their country's political debate as well as help nominate an independent candidate.
In a nut shell, they invite users to

• Define the crucial issues facing our nation—beyond just red and blue.

-Rank your priorities for our next president
-Answer questions that determine your individual views
-See how you compare to other delegates and candidates

• Shape the Debate

-Choose the questions all candidates must answer to seek the Americans Elect nomination.
-Help define the "Platform of Questions" by voting and posting your own
-Debate the issues with other delegates and candidates
-Meet up with other delegates in your area

• Choose the Candidates

-Find and draft candidates with solutions that work
-Match with candidates who share your views
-Draft new candidates to run on Americans Elect
-Follow and support candidates with solutions you believe in

• Cast Your Vote

-Nominate the President and VP directly
-Narrow the field of candidates
-Evaluate finalists’ choices for vice president
-Vote in the online convention
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pariah
#16 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:04:36 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 11/24/2011
Posts: 833
MaichBlack wrote:
Bloody Bure Kabisa!!!

What the hell??? One cannot comment on the "Reshuffle" thread? This ill advised censorship and gagging has gone too far. I don't know what Lady Admin expects to achieve but I think she's way off the mark!

Whoever heads a particular ministry influences my investments & where I plan to put my money next and I'm not "allowed" to comment? Wazua must be the only Kenyan forum where this reshuffle will not be discussed. And wazuans will be the only group of Kenyans who are expected to assume this did not happen.

Just when I think we've hit the bottom, a hole is dug!


ditto BBK

We can politick in tz on jamii forum lold'oh! Liar Liar Pray
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Marty
#17 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:37:23 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 3/31/2008
Posts: 761
Location: Nairobi
redondo wrote:
I think that complaining over and over without proving that wazua as a community is mature enough to engage in positive politics will just harden the admins stance. Truth be told, the freedom of speech does not accord us the freedom to insult those of divergent views and in effect contribute in polarising this country. Perhaps as a sign of good faith, we can join in formulating the new rules/code of conduct for engaging. That would be a sign that we can self regulate.

On another note its now clear to me why wazungu wako mbele. Instead of mad slinging the way we do on wazua, their approach to politics is objective and action oriented. Check out this site

http://www.americanselect.org/

These guys are using the web to both contribute to their country's political debate as well as help nominate an independent candidate.
In a nut shell, they invite users to

• Define the crucial issues facing our nation—beyond just red and blue.

-Rank your priorities for our next president
-Answer questions that determine your individual views
-See how you compare to other delegates and candidates

• Shape the Debate

-Choose the questions all candidates must answer to seek the Americans Elect nomination.
-Help define the "Platform of Questions" by voting and posting your own
-Debate the issues with other delegates and candidates
-Meet up with other delegates in your area

• Choose the Candidates

-Find and draft candidates with solutions that work
-Match with candidates who share your views
-Draft new candidates to run on Americans Elect
-Follow and support candidates with solutions you believe in

• Cast Your Vote

-Nominate the President and VP directly
-Narrow the field of candidates
-Evaluate finalists’ choices for vice president
-Vote in the online convention


i concur with this post. Let admin formulate draft rules then presents them to us for review, additions or amendments. Then all of us wil own the rules and anyone who violates them wil be dealt with. Matters politic must b discussed in a mature manner as we all know the impact.
When I admire the wonder of a sunset or the beauty
of the moon, my soul expands in worship of the Creator.
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YesuWangu
#18 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:18:40 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/11/2010
Posts: 1,588
masukuma wrote:
I am surprised that this is not yet 'Usered', Kenyans love being extreme (wazua admin included) reacting with extremes!! its as if people will not discuss the same else where! In talking people get to know each other and understand one another - this will actually help in sorting out sterotypes. Wazua admin should be a moderator not director! wazua admin is behaving like an ostrich having its head in the sand - that as long as people are not talking on Wazua, Kenya is safe!! Kenyans need to talk what is in their hearts, not talking is dangerous!
some advice to Wazua admin - RESPOND TO ISSUES DON'T REACT TO THEM!



Masukuma, you know you have escaped.

On other matters, maybe those complaining should do instead of talk.

If they want to go they should have gone.

Let us who remain be the ones to talk about them after they have gone.
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Robinhood
#19 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:28:37 AM
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Joined: 12/11/2008
Posts: 2,306
Wazua, further to removing offensive comments, you could also bar the persons posting such for a period of time. Turning such persons to users does not adequately punish misdeeds nor does it encourage behavior change.
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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newfarer
#20 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:31:17 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
YesuWangu wrote:
masukuma wrote:
I am surprised that this is not yet 'Usered', Kenyans love being extreme (wazua admin included) reacting with extremes!! its as if people will not discuss the same else where! In talking people get to know each other and understand one another - this will actually help in sorting out sterotypes. Wazua admin should be a moderator not director! wazua admin is behaving like an ostrich having its head in the sand - that as long as people are not talking on Wazua, Kenya is safe!! Kenyans need to talk what is in their hearts, not talking is dangerous!
some advice to Wazua admin - RESPOND TO ISSUES DON'T REACT TO THEM!



Masukuma, you know you have escaped.

On other matters, maybe those complaining should do instead of talk.

If they want to go they should have gone.

Let us who remain be the ones to talk about them after they have gone.

we have made this site what it is,that's why despite the dissatisfaction we have held on.its just a matter of time if the issues are not addressed members will have nothing to talk about and therefore no reason to log in.slow death.
punda amecheka
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