@nostop...hapana...real trees like mugumo trees then we can discuss the history of trees...@forsport...niweke mti hapo yu see what am talking abt...wewe

All those who are cheer leading Madam Admin need to read excerpts of Martin Niemoller's address to the U.S. Congress. Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin Niemöller was a German anti-Nazi theologian and Lutheran pastor during Hitler's rule. For more you can Google him.

Here is an excerpt from his address to the US congress which was turned into a poem called "First they came..."

Had to suspend my wazua holiday to contribute to this.

This is sad, unfortunate and very unfair!

Wazua is closing down the politics section to protect 1 politician? @admin, where were you when Uhuru Kenyatta was referred to as 'mwizi wa Kiambu' and land grabber?

If people engage in ethnic hate speech, it is proper for them to be warned and even blocked from this site. But if all we are engaging in is scrutiny of our leaders then it is only fair that we allow such to continue.

Granted, our political discussions are informed by our political biases(and tribe) but so long as we do not go into name calling and ethnic hatred, I humbly submit that you allow us to go on.

I have had arguments with ardent Raila supporters here(mcreggae, nostop and Jaluo) which have never degenerated to insults or tribal issues. I believe this is possible only that we need to watch out for the few deviants who will want to take us the 2007 route again.

We have seen some wazuans make unprovoked attacks on other wazuans. Follow them all over wazua on any thread just to insult them. They they announce here how they hacked into wazua and you ignore their arrogance. Yet you user magigi, chemos, burning spear and ecstacy? How fair!

Should I seek to get even with such characters, do I risk being usered or blocked from accessing wazua?

Your latest efforts at 'enforcing discipline' are very suspect. The integrity of wazua should not be hinged upon protecting 1 radio presenter, 1 DJ and 1 presidential candidate. If we make rules let them apply to all!

Please also communicate, and maybe remove the existing rules. We don't follow them anymore!

Dear @Lolest!,

Your heartfelt post and frustrations are noted and true.

We only begun executing our mandate towards Political contributions this Tue 20th by suspending the section. Sadly a lot had already taken place.

Including us as administrators, many were at fault in the ungoverned space. So we started with 'strong opinionators' who posted Political discussions despite our suspension of the topic.

I assure you our investigations/vigilance continues. We appreciate your pointing us towards some who have irked you considerably, and hope with all our members' help to rediscover our spirit.

The Wazua spirit

2 words: SOBER UP
First to Admin,
Then to everyone else.
And wazua will be a great place to be for All.

Whether Wazua Admin likes it or not PEV will be discussed by Kenyans and others till kingdom come. How can Wazua Admin attempt to muzzle wazuans from discussing PEV - it may be the worst thing that ever happened to the Kenyan nation but noone can wish it away - least of all Wazua admin. So will Wazua Admin also try and stop the ICC from discussing PEV????

Wazua Admin,

You have miserably failed to answer the very important points that @ has raised. You simply have no defence for the usering you have being doing. Many of us can clearly see how biased and baseless your usering is.

Usering us will not change the course of this journey, It has already taken off and this favourite candidate of yours does not need us to help bring him down, he is doing it on his own quite well. When an alternative forum is realized someone let us know. I can't stand mashada's hate language.

i think the lady admin should desist from curtailing our freedom of expression...our politicians are spewing hate and lies right, left and centre and this is one of the forums we use to put them in their proper place....

@Wazua Admin it seems you just want to kill this website. On Wazua I have learnt a lot including SACCOS, bought two properties from members, made friends............ I was even convinced to vote for Martha Karua on this site, a lady I hated immensely after 2007.That in itself tells you there is more good discourse here than the tribal hatred minted by a few. In a developing society like Kenya politics is very important. Stifling debate is definitely counterproductive for you. You need to reconsider


PS My mental picture of lady admin is the 'matron' at my primary boarding school who used force us to sleep at 'lights out'