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OUR LANGUAGE AFFECTS OUR THINKING
For Sport
#21 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 6:23:24 PM
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@ Josiah, maybe but highly unlikely. What language do you think in or express yourself in when highly stressed. There's that popular expression used to describe how bad a situation is "...mpaka akaongea lugha ya kimama". Its more likely that you think in one language and express yourself in another. And maybe it depends on how early we pick up these languages.
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#22 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 6:24:47 PM
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i came to a place where I said -shauri yao, its their problem to try and understand me.
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#23 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 7:30:19 PM
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For Sport wrote:
@ Josiah, maybe but highly unlikely. What language do you think in or express yourself in when highly stressed. There's that popular expression used to describe how bad a situation is "...mpaka akaongea lugha ya kimama". Its more likely that you think in one language and express yourself in another. And maybe it depends on how early we pick up these languages.

Apparently if you are truly bilingual and the languages are internalised and you have a good grasp of say spanish and french, you would think in either of the languages depending on which one you are using.
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#24 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 11:57:14 PM
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shygal wrote:

Apparently if you are truly bilingual and the languages are internalised and you have a good grasp of say spanish and french, you would think in either of the languages depending on which one you are using.


Although we debate often about what language we think in, I don't think the thought process itself has any language. I mean, I don't think we think in a language but rather more in pictures, visual ,dimensional, sound or sentimental perceptions. After the thought has occurred then we translate that into a language in order to express the thought which in itself is independent of the language.

Other interesting aspects of language. In Kikuyu there is no word for brother or sister instead we talk about son of my mother or daughter of my mother. Then there are other totally untranslatable words like the famous "Atiriri." which calls the listener to attention when you are about to speak but does not in itself mean anything. Or does somebody have a translation for this word.

Here is a question for Guka, does "rugongo" mean North or is it just up the hill. Because we have "Itherero" which is East and "Ruguru" West
So is North Rugongo and South Kianda or are they strictly up the hill and down the hill but do not signify direction??

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#25 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:05:09 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
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Here is a question for Guka, does "rugongo" mean North or is it just up the hill. Because we have "Itherero" which is East and "Ruguru" West
So is North Rugongo and South Kianda or are they strictly up the hill and down the hill but do not signify direction??


@Kusadikika,
You are right although i would add that rugongo is also used to refer to the village across the ridge e.g "Rugongo ruria".Consider too that, your ka-plot might be on a gradient and it is common place to refer to the higher side as "mutwe" and the lower side as "maguru or nyariri"...and again East and West can also be refered to as "Irathiro" (Sunrise) and "Ithuiro" (Sunset)...I stand to be "collected"smile
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