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Kenya airways Right Issue
Aguytrying
#81 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:50:58 AM
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Today up 4 percent. From yesterdays close. Don't expect the major shareholders to watch it go to 14.00 lol.
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#82 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:41:17 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Today up 4 percent. From yesterdays close. Don't expect the major shareholders to watch it go to 14.00 lol.

This one belongs to sub 10.
Hope we don't get here before the new shares start trading!
For the speculators, please keep off! And this you can take to the bank!
@SufficientlyP
kyt
#83 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:11:46 PM
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6 bob all over again
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itz
#84 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:29:37 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Today up 4 percent. From yesterdays close. Don't expect the major shareholders to watch it go to 14.00 lol.

This one belongs to sub 10.
Hope we don't get here before the new shares start trading!
For the speculators, please keep off! And this you can take to the bank!


Let the people who want to be heroes keep buying KQ.i have been saying this since the share was 30+ when they announced plans to do a rights issue.This is a massive dilution.Going back to under 10 and it will be hard to move this shares up.Airlines just like utilities(kengen,kplc,part of transcentury) require alot of capital to run.
Aguytrying
#85 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:00:53 PM
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itz wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Today up 4 percent. From yesterdays close. Don't expect the major shareholders to watch it go to 14.00 lol.

This one belongs to sub 10.
Hope we don't get here before the new shares start trading!
For the speculators, please keep off! And this you can take to the bank!


Let the people who want to be heroes keep buying KQ.i have been saying this since the share was 30+ when they announced plans to do a rights issue.This is a massive dilution.Going back to under 10 and it will be hard to move this shares up.Airlines just like utilities(kengen,kplc,part of transcentury) require alot of capital to run.


Speculators are in for a rough ride, esp those that will buy rights hoping to make some profit.

At a PE of 6 post rights(which is even higher than some very well performing firms are trading at) KQ will have a share price of EPS*PE 1.25*6= 7.50/=
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mwekez@ji
#86 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:41:34 PM
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2012
#87 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 2:26:44 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
If local shareholding in KQ reduces to less than 51%, KQ would loose the national flag carrier status.


I don't think so. National flag carrier is just a marketing thing and any operator who acquires KQ would be wise to leave it that way. And that's why EABL are so happy telling us proudly Kenyan while we all know it's proudly Diageo.

BBI will solve it
:)
Thiong'o
#88 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 3:12:19 PM
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2012 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
If local shareholding in KQ reduces to less than 51%, KQ would loose the national flag carrier status.


I don't think so. National flag carrier is just a marketing thing and any operator who acquires KQ would be wise to leave it that way. And that's why EABL are so happy telling us proudly Kenyan while we all know it's proudly Diageo.


"flag carrier" -definition (Wikipedia’s.)

“The term is also used loosely to refer to any dominant or major airline sized carrier in a country, or in reference to a mainline carrier with a history of a state sponsored legacy of airline service, even long after their privatization.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_carrier

So, it still will retain -the national flag carrier status.
mwekez@ji
#89 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 8:57:10 PM
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@2012, @thiong’o, the “experts” at standard investment bank had the following on this matter

In order retain its status as Kenya’s national carrier (and retain existing bilateral air service agreements), locals must have a combined stake of at least 51% after the rights offer.

That has also been said by a number of analyst and media firms
mwekez@ji
#90 Posted : Monday, March 19, 2012 9:08:43 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:


At a PE of 6 post rights(which is even higher than some very well performing firms are trading at) KQ will have a share price of EPS*PE 1.25*6= 7.50/=


Post rights, the share should trade at a PE of >12 to reflect the expected future incomes. Remember the capital will be deployed in coming days and did not contribute to the 2011 earnings. Ope the IM will give a picture of how much they expect the earnings to grow as the ambitious expansion plan starts rolling. We can then calculate the forward PE
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