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Kenya airways Right Issue
mwekez@ji
#1 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 11:44:42 AM
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ITS 14 BOB A SHARE!!!

Kenya Airways prices rights issue at 14 shillings
http://af.reuters.com/article/c...ws/idAFL5E8EC08220120312
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#2 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 12:00:52 PM
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The offer opens on April 2
chaimani
#3 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 2:21:46 PM
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16 new share for every 5 held @ 14.00.
What do you think? is it a good bet..d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
chasing after the wind
Gordon Gekko
#4 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 3:43:57 PM
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Leave it and dilute yourself big time.
FundamentAli
#5 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 4:16:27 PM
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As a frequent traveler, am so disappointed with their service. I have avoided them for the last 1 year. Surely, how do I invest in KQ when they have left us really disappointed?
QW25091985
#6 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 4:26:39 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Leave it and dilute yourself big time.


thats in itself will make it a success !
Impunity
#7 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 6:08:21 PM
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chaimani wrote:
16 new share for every 5 held @ 14.00.
What do you think? is it a good bet..d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


How an I make money out of this rights?
d'oh!
Portfolio: Sold
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chaimani
#8 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 6:28:26 PM
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Impunity wrote:
chaimani wrote:
16 new share for every 5 held @ 14.00.
What do you think? is it a good bet..d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


How an I make money out of this rights?
d'oh!

With the current market we might see the Market price falling below 14 in few weeks time,am foreseeing the under subscription of this issue...wait in june the price might be 6 bob or below due to dilution
Sad Sad Sad
chasing after the wind
Aguytrying
#9 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 6:52:54 PM
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DILUTION EXPECTED:

Around 1.48 billion new shares will be created. Add the current 496m shares, lets call it 0.5m shares. Total 1.98 billion shares.

Profit after tax last year 2011 was 3.54 billion shillings. Expected to drop by more than 25 percent. 70 percent of 3.54 billion shillings is 2.478 billion shillings. Diluted eps will be 2.478/1.98=1.25.

Current market average pe is 7.5. 7.5*1.25=9.40. At a pe of 7.5 kq will be trading at 9.40 shillings post rights. Enjoy.
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Aguytrying
#10 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 7:01:44 PM
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chaimani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
chaimani wrote:
16 new share for every 5 held @ 14.00.
What do you think? is it a good bet..d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


How an I make money out of this rights?
d'oh!

With the current market we might see the Market price falling below 14 in few weeks time,am foreseeing the under subscription of this issue...wait in june the price might be 6 bob or below due to dilution
Sad Sad Sad

this is how: the share will fall drastically to approach the rights issue price. It shouldn't go below ideally. There will be a panic as to whether it will be fully subscribed, at height of this the share will be lowest, this is the time to buy the shares from the market. During the run up to announcement of subscription, the share will rally-if its good news, this is the time to sell. Buying the rights will lock you in and by the time you can sell them they will be way below 14.00.
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Paul Owuor
#11 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 7:43:09 PM
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Applause Applause Applause Applause .@Argutrying.I am fascinated by your accurate calculations.The price will be further driven down by an undersubscription to about.Another Paka-safcon story is brewing before our eyes.
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Gordon Gekko
#12 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 9:05:15 PM
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@Aguytrying.I am NOT fascinated by your
accurate calculations. You have made the assumption that there will be no increase in earnings.
KQ have stated their target is 100 planes. They must have done some logical analysis to arrive at this figure. Please remember that KQ have consistently had a load factor of 69%, a number I'm confident they will maintain even with the 100 planes.

The risk to KQ in my books are staff costs. Fuel spikes, hedges, crashes can be mitigated but they need to somehow resolve the HR riddle.

I expect a depression in price, ksh 10 is not far fetched, but I have previously bought at ksh 6.75 and got out in the 100s.

For sure, this is not for the faint hearted but the rewards are worth it.
mlennyma
#13 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 9:24:50 PM
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Will pple afford this thing?lets assume you have 5000k shares, divide by 5=1000*16=16000*14=224,000 am i right guys?
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mlennyma
#14 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 9:29:47 PM
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I will sell this thing kesho and assume i was conned.
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maligumu
#15 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 9:58:32 PM
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Why get the rights @ 14 . Jump out wait for it at sub 10. That is if you survive the crash .
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mlennyma
#16 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 10:02:46 PM
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@maligumu i think so and i wont dare
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StatMeister
#17 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 10:56:24 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@Aguytrying.I am NOT fascinated by your
accurate calculations. You have made the assumption that there will be no increase in earnings.
KQ have stated their target is 100 planes. They must have done some logical analysis to arrive at this figure. Please remember that KQ have consistently had a load factor of 69%, a number I'm confident they will maintain even with the 100 planes.

The risk to KQ in my books are staff costs. Fuel spikes, hedges, crashes can be mitigated but they need to somehow resolve the HR riddle.

I expect a depression in price, ksh 10 is not far fetched, but I have previously bought at ksh 6.75 and got out in the 100s.

For sure, this is not for the faint hearted but the rewards are worth it.


@GG, did not KQ issue a profit warning?
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QW25091985
#18 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 11:02:05 PM
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okay you guys keep panicking am down there waiting for you sell orders !
guru267
#19 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 11:08:05 PM
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QW25091985 wrote:
okay you guys keep panicking am down there waiting for you sell orders !


What happens when @qw endorses a stock?? (ak, paka & britank) smile
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#20 Posted : Monday, March 12, 2012 11:12:52 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I will sell this thing kesho and assume i was conned.

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