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To FundamentAli, harrydre, user, digitek1 etc: Yes, that Maranda story smells.
harrydre
#51 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 11:36:46 PM
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SiriKali1 wrote:
I will ignore the last post you wrote to me, and the first half of the one 2nd to last.

What I want to do you is a favor nikikuomba Mlevi ujitahadhari na soko za hisa. Najuwa unategemea ati the Efficient Market Hypothesis ukikiri kwamba the market always corrects itself. Hah! Kaput! Toka 2008 ni wachache sana wenye kudhania kwamba the market cannot be gamed, and gamed hard na wale ambao wanujuwa ma siri ya kiuchumi. Insiders always benefit. They always have the advantage. The best investment strategy? Weka vitabu vya Efficient Markets kando. Juana na watu. Be very circumspect. Like me. How's that for real?

You know who's unreal? You are unreal.



@ Serikali1, for your own good stop wasting your precious time with one Drunkard a.k.a 10k. He feels like a small god who owns planet earth while he cant keep simple promises like a pledge to help a disabled man (and that's how 10k came about. We should actually name this dude LO, he seems to be living the life of Louis the Pest).

And could you give up recomputing those grades please. We know this KNEC or whatever it's called is never serious. You saw even KCPE results had so many errors what would stop KCSE from having the same errors. That body got no credibility whatsoever. During Moi's time, we used to hear Kabarak schools in the top where are they now? RAO just picked the phone before results were announced and declared his former school MUST be top else 'results will not be accepted' & 'mass actions'...learn to fight another day.
i.am.back!!!!
Drunkard
#52 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:38:52 AM
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@Harrydre
You and I have mutual feeling towards one another which I am cool with it, I don't think I am some god but I do think some people are worthless, unfortunately I also think you're among those people, I know people cringe when I say so but at the same time alot of people silently agree with that fact, if I have two option, 30 yrs in prison or death, I will take death because I strongle believe people who are not productive shouldn't live.

10k, I have said it and I will say again, 10k is pocket change to me but I reserve the right not to drop that change to a suffering person at any given time, I also reserve right to exercise my rights at any given time.

Now onto sirikali, I know he is somewhere in western countries but for one thing inspite him living in western countries he still hold onto the pride of his highsch ranking, because he doesn't have anything else to be proud of; people are proud of their businesses, the companies they work for and their own ideas and Sirikali do not have anything a part from highsch pride from 20 yrs ago? Tell me why this guy deserve to live, infact you're keeping your kidneys we're selling his.
SiriKali1
#53 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:08:06 AM
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Drunkard wrote:
@Harrydre
You and I have mutual feeling towards one another which I am cool with it, I don't think I am some god but I do think some people are worthless, unfortunately I also think you're among those people, I know people cringe when I say so but at the same time alot of people silently agree with that fact, if I have two option, 30 yrs in prison or death, I will take death because I strongle believe people who are not productive shouldn't live.

10k, I have said it and I will say again, 10k is pocket change to me but I reserve the right not to drop that change to a suffering person at any given time, I also reserve right to exercise my rights at any given time.

Now onto sirikali, I know he is somewhere in western countries but for one thing inspite him living in western countries he still hold onto the pride of his highsch ranking, because he doesn't have anything else to be proud of; people are proud of their businesses, the companies they work for and their own ideas and Sirikali do not have anything a part from highsch pride from 20 yrs ago? Tell me why this guy deserve to live, infact you're keeping your kidneys we're selling his.


Haki ya Mungu,

Chuki imejaa jukwaa hili. Mabishano yasiyo na maana wala mwisho. Mawasiliano ya heshima na ustaarabu hamna. Wenye uhasama kama Mlevi ndio wenye kuongoza uchochevu huku wakijigamba kwamba maisha yao yana maana sana na mawazo yao ya hali ya juu hadi sisi wengine raia wa kawaida kamwe hatuwezi yafahamu. Kisha hana aibu akinishauri ninapomjibu nitumie lugha ya Kiingereza kwani Kiswahili yeye hakielewi. Kusema Mlevi ni tumbili ni kumtusi tumbili kwani huyu ndugu elimu yake haijamletea manufaa yeyote ikiwa mila za mbeberu zote anaziigiza bila kusita wala kutumia maarifa yake kama mtu ambaye amehitimu uzima.
SiriKali1
#54 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:22:26 AM
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As long as we are talking about link between ethnicity and education, DN has a story today about public universities (see link below).

At the risk of sounding insensitive to what is clearly a pressing issue that threatens to divide the country, I feel the really urgent question here is whether the bias universities show in hiring is reflected in student admissions. I remember during the post-election violence there was concern that a majority of student spaces in Maseno, for example, would go unfilled. If true, this would suggest that Maseno was serving a student body with a significantly wider and more diverse ethnic profile than - I suspect - that of the staff. If that is true for Maseno, it could be true for the other universities.

Link: http://www.nation.co.ke/...-/14ecnwwz/-/index.html
Drunkard
#55 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:38:12 AM
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@ Sirikali1
Thanks for the long swahili writing up there, I am not going to comment on that, I read and look at the number while from outside it look skewed, unless we have data indicating clear categories of jobs, it is hard to make an argument using the number of employee and the ethnicity alone.

Here is why, If a university is located in say Luo nyanza, by headcount you'll have more luo employees because there are jobs that do not offer any incentive to move from Mandera to nyanza to do it and if that is counted as one job the Luos will hav one job added to the list, so unless there is other measure the headcount just don't give the whole picture
pariah
#56 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 1:38:48 AM
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Tribalism a reality in all public corporations, the appointing authority has ensured the VC hails from a given tribe ie Moi University has Mibei, before him it was Some (Kaleos), they in turn hire managers from their tribe and you can imagine the trickle down effect upto the cleaners. Having said that you would naturally expect lower cadre staff to be residents of that location ie Pwani university will have coasterians in lower ranks.....
SiriKali1
#57 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 2:20:50 AM
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pariah wrote:
Tribalismis a reality in all public corporations, the appointing authority has ensured the VC hails from a given tribe ie Moi University has Mibei, before him it was Some (Kaleos), they in turn hire managers from their tribe and you can imagine the trickle down effect upto the cleaners. Having said that you would naturally expect lower cadre staff to be residents of that location ie Pwani university will have coasterians in lower ranks.....


To both Pariah na Mlevi,

Exactly. I mean, no matter how ethnic-neutral the hiring practices, the location of the university will have an impact on employment, especially, as you point out, among the lower cadre staff.

The reality, though, is that faculty and other higher echelon hiring itself is tribal. This a sad testimony that book learning does not make one educated. Even so, I still think that is an evil we can live with if the student admissions process is (relatively) fair. It would appear to me the JAB does a decent job of giving the deserving an opportunity, parallel programs aside.

The sticky issue with a tribal spoils system is that it almost certainly guarantees that assembling a first-rate faculty among any of our universities will take a looong while. Don't count on living to see that day.
Drunkard
#58 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 2:31:31 AM
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@ sarikali,

Before I leave for the day, why again did you say you're obessed with the ranking for?
SiriKali1
#59 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 2:45:49 AM
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Drunkard wrote:
@ sarikali,

Before I leave for the day, why again did you say you're obessed with the ranking for?


When did I ever say I was? If this is an attempt to bait me, sorry, you will have to up your game.

Go to sleep. Back when I used to imbibe, I found that Johnny Walker Black Label really helps. But then you would know, wouldn't you?
Drunkard
#60 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:32:58 AM
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Sirikali1
How then should I categorize your argument on the stupid ranking?
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