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To FundamentAli, harrydre, user, digitek1 etc: Yes, that Maranda story smells.
SiriKali1
#31 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2012 11:11:36 PM
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harrydre wrote:
There might be some politiks in this and I said this before. Someone has been trying to gain media attention in all ways and everyday they must be in the news. soon after announement of maranda winning, there was an exlusive interview with a former old boy.


Even though I would never go so far as to argue that Raila is behind this, I strongly agree there is something fishy about this whole thing. That is why the larger issue here is not so much the schools' ranking but the demolition of the growing myth that is being to be created around Maranda. How else can we take down the stories being peddled than to conclusively demonstrate them to be false? The fact is these myths cannot be debunked without questing the rankings, I am sorry to say.
SiriKali1
#32 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2012 11:18:15 PM
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lexx wrote:
SiriKali1 wrote:
bkismat,


But at the very least, can we agree that Maranda's index, without question, is 11.057 and not 11.287?


why should we?


Why would you not? I have got data behind my argument. What reason do you have?
Drunkard
#33 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2012 11:34:40 PM
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SiriKali1 wrote:
Drunkard wrote:
Holy crap! do we care that much about the school ranking? This is how petty we're as people, we're almost killing one another for stupid ranking, if you kid or bro or sis have an A does the ranking matters? if he has an F does the school ranking matters?

Ooo! God! this new guy should use his math to do something else, what a waste of math skills! Of course Lolest and Inpunity luck the resources mentally to analyze anything so I can excuse them.


You are petty , so I will be petty in kind. Lolest and Impunity do not luck the resources, they lack them....

If you are missing the larger implications of the point being made here, that if such incompetence, or, depending on your politics, manipulation of results, can pass unquestioned right under our noses, then what else is being done behind our backs?

Additionally, I did mention earlier that, purely on principle, it is always important to get the story and facts right. I would have thought that precision in one's affairs would matter to people interested in stocks, share prices, etc.

Do we not live and die by numbers?


Thank you for your correction on Luck and lack..
onto the second point, I know you said you are new so I want to point out a few things: there are a number of people you do not wanna argue with 1)Lolest 2)Inpunity 3) Insugency 4)Mcraggae 5) Harrydre.

These are people who believe in conspiracy theories e.g they believe that Raila get a goodnite call from Obamas every night, they believe that God want Kalonzo to be president, They believed that consitution was going to lead to Sheria law in the entire country, they believed that Ocampo is a luo infact I heard one of them dug a big hole in 1999 to escape the end of the world. To cut the story short, these are the people who should never have been born in the first place, these are the people embarrassing the whole continent; as a matter of facts these are the people who should have been dead in places of great people like Steve Job and not so great people like John Muchuki and Njenga Karuma.
pariah
#34 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2012 11:42:11 PM
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sorry if i offended anyone, for the record my alleged outburst was directed @srikal, forgive me I ll be very pedantic on this one (long post)


@srikal I hope by now you ve learnt how points are assigned ie A=12, A-=11, B+=10, B=9, B-=8.........you get the drift, so a kid can have an A plain with 81, 82, 83 or 84 points. This is because he/she may not have had straight As in all subjects.


I still dont get y you are banging on about the 11.000000 so i wont reply to that,all I can think of are typos among the journalists

in my time in high school it was common that top student ranking in papers was ranked by the raw marks in the subjects ie there were discrepancies in that the best kid by % marks was not necesarily the best in the points or vice versa


finally we all know these exams were heavily leaked so hakuna haja ya kupiga kifua, thats not to steal their thunder but hii exam was out months in advance


I went to a bloody good school too and am proud of it
Drunkard
#35 Posted : Monday, March 05, 2012 11:53:32 PM
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"I went to a bloody good school too and am proud of it"
@Pariah, looks like you came out with nothing, this assessment is based on a tally from all your contribution here!
SiriKali1
#36 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 12:08:50 AM
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Joined: 3/4/2012
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pariah wrote:
sorry if i offended anyone, for the record my alleged outburst was directed @srikal, forgive me I ll be very pedantic on this one (long post)


@srikal I hope by now you ve learnt how points are assigned ie A=12, A-=11, B+=10, B=9, B-=8.........you get the drift, so a kid can have an A plain with 81, 82, 83 or 84 points. This is because he/she may not have had straight As in all subjects.


I still dont get y you are banging on about the 11.000000 so i wont reply to that,all I can think of are typos among the journalists

in my time in high school it was common that top student ranking in papers was ranked by the raw marks in the subjects ie there were discrepancies in that the best kid by % marks was not necesarily the best in the points or vice versa


finally we all know these exams were heavily leaked so hakuna haja ya kupiga kifua, thats not to steal their thunder but hii exam was out months in advance


I went to a bloody good school too and am proud of it


I went to one of the school's that is always being accused of getting leaked papers. Another myth...Not once the whole time I was there did we get leaked papers. Ever.We just studied our butts off. Outworked everyone else.

Accusations of papers being leaked are made by those who, for whatever reason, lack the wherewithal to do well.

Sorry, there is no conspiracy there.

As for the performance index, let me paint the very big picture for you in a single sentence: If it had been properly calculated as 11.057, there would be no rumors of conspiracies, political manipulations, Raila cooking results and what have you.

We would not be having this conversation. Get it?

THAT, IN BIG LETTERS, IS THE BIG PICTURE.
SiriKali1
#37 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 12:11:27 AM
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Drunkard wrote:
SiriKali1 wrote:
Drunkard wrote:
Holy crap! do we care that much about the school ranking? This is how petty we're as people, we're almost killing one another for stupid ranking, if you kid or bro or sis have an A does the ranking matters? if he has an F does the school ranking matters?

Ooo! God! this new guy should use his math to do something else, what a waste of math skills! Of course Lolest and Inpunity luck the resources mentally to analyze anything so I can excuse them.


You are petty , so I will be petty in kind. Lolest and Impunity do not luck the resources, they lack them....

If you are missing the larger implications of the point being made here, that if such incompetence, or, depending on your politics, manipulation of results, can pass unquestioned right under our noses, then what else is being done behind our backs?

Additionally, I did mention earlier that, purely on principle, it is always important to get the story and facts right. I would have thought that precision in one's affairs would matter to people interested in stocks, share prices, etc.

Do we not live and die by numbers?


Thank you for your correction on Luck and lack..
onto the second point, I know you said you are new so I want to point out a few things: there are a number of people you do not wanna argue with 1)Lolest 2)Inpunity 3) Insugency 4)Mcraggae 5) Harrydre.

These are people who believe in conspiracy theories e.g they believe that Raila get a goodnite call from Obamas every night, they believe that God want Kalonzo to be president, They believed that consitution was going to lead to Sheria law in the entire country, they believed that Ocampo is a luo infact I heard one of them dug a big hole in 1999 to escape the end of the world. To cut the story short, these are the people who should never have been born in the first place, these are the people embarrassing the whole continent; as a matter of facts these are the people who should have been dead in places of great people like Steve Job and not so great people like John Muchuki and Njenga Karuma.


Actually Mlevi,

I was not criticizing Lolest or Impunity, but you. You made a big deal about how I obsessed over rankings. I was just pointing out that if you are going to demonstrate superiority, make sure your grammar backs you up.

I am not here to take sides.
Drunkard
#38 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 1:10:24 AM
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Joined: 5/3/2011
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@Sirikali 1

Ooh! come on, now I see why, you went to these big schools and you are defensive of the leakage because you actually did got the leakage.
Here is why and you do not need to point at any math.

You're working too hard to protect the ranking, why? because you have nothing else to hold onto apart from the pride of a highschool you went to 10 to 20yrs ago.

I am making a big deal out of your obsession with ranking because I am trying to point out one thing to you and that is; please find something else to hold on other than highsch ranking from your former highschool which were most likely because of hardwork of others not even you.

I know you're going to point incompetence or the larger theory of correctness but to me the whole argument you're fronting is flawed and the opportunity cost of your time is being lost in stupid rankings. In finacial markets there are people making a living chasing mispricing of assets. However, the theories of financial market tells us that the market correct itself nevertheless, there is incorrectness in markets everytime but people don't go after it(smart people) because it is not attractive. So if you were smart you wouldn't go after the incorrectness in the ranking because it is not attractive, but again are you really smart.

Lastly, I do not get paid to write so my grammer is the last thing I worry about!
Drunkard
#39 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 1:41:01 AM
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@Sirikali1
Give me something real and I will respect you, otherwise from now on you're officially on the same list with Lolest, Insurgent,Inpunity, Mcraggae and Harrydre, infact I am putting your kidneys up for sale because you're worthless and your organs need to be use to save a worthy life.
SiriKali1
#40 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2012 1:58:11 AM
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Joined: 3/4/2012
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I will ignore the last post you wrote to me, and the first half of the one 2nd to last.

What I want to do you is a favor nikikuomba Mlevi ujitahadhari na soko za hisa. Najuwa unategemea ati the Efficient Market Hypothesis ukikiri kwamba the market always corrects itself. Hah! Kaput! Toka 2008 ni wachache sana wenye kudhania kwamba the market cannot be gamed, and gamed hard na wale ambao wanujuwa ma siri ya kiuchumi. Insiders always benefit. They always have the advantage. The best investment strategy? Weka vitabu vya Efficient Markets kando. Juana na watu. Be very circumspect. Like me. How's that for real?

You know who's unreal? You are unreal.

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