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KCB and Equity Dividends Anouncements Are Close By
ngapat
#21 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:35:31 PM
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15.1 billion in pre-tax profit. to pay sh 1.85 as dividends
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#22 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:45:11 PM
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Roar!!!!
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#23 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:00:21 PM

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mwanahisa wrote:
GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:
My forecasts are EPS at 3.57 with DPS at 1.65.


This EPS forecast is way too high. Given KCB's Q3 earnings, I project an EPS of about Kshs 2.89, however it could fall within a range of Kshs 2.80 - 3.00. DPS will most likely not top Kshs 1.50.

In Equity's case EPS will come in at about Kshs 2.63 (range from Kshs 2.50 to 2.70). Given Equity's past dividend payout history, I expect DPS to be between Kshs 1.00 to 1.20.

Mwanahisa you were saying? It even outperformed my forecasts with EPS at 3.72 and DPS at 1.85. Fantastic results but got a hunch Equity will blow this out of the water smile
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mwanahisa
#24 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:14:56 PM
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Kudos @GGL, You were certainly a lot closer than my estimate. I stand corrected, but as a shareholder, I will happily eat humble pie as I book my holiday with the expected dividend cheque (on the windfall above my Kshs 1.50 projection).

Do you honestly believe Equity can surpass PAT of 10.9B or better yet PBT of 15.1B?

GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:
My forecasts are EPS at 3.57 with DPS at 1.65.


This EPS forecast is way too high. Given KCB's Q3 earnings, I project an EPS of about Kshs 2.89, however it could fall within a range of Kshs 2.80 - 3.00. DPS will most likely not top Kshs 1.50.

In Equity's case EPS will come in at about Kshs 2.63 (range from Kshs 2.50 to 2.70). Given Equity's past dividend payout history, I expect DPS to be between Kshs 1.00 to 1.20.

Mwanahisa you were saying? It even outperformed my forecasts with EPS at 3.72 and DPS at 1.85. Fantastic results but got a hunch Equity will blow this out of the water smile

earthvoice
#25 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:42:26 PM
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KCB out, very impressiveApplause Applause . When does Member announce its results?
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GenghisCapitalLtd
#26 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:12:34 PM

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Does anyone else believe that member waits for its biggest rival in KCB to announce first? I think they do cz talking to some of my media friends, member have given them a run around on the exact date! Mwanahisa I have estimates of PBT 15.2Bn and PAT 12Bn or there about. Will wait and c au sio?!
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mwanahisa
#27 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:36:55 PM
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GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:
Does anyone else believe that member waits for its biggest rival in KCB to announce first? I think they do cz talking to some of my media friends, member have given them a run around on the exact date! Mwanahisa I have estimates of PBT 15.2Bn and PAT 12Bn or there about. Will wait and c au sio?!


Over the last 2 or so years, its certainly looked like that. In the days when EBL were sure they were top or had extraordinary growth in their profits they were very quick off the blocks.

As for a PBT of 15.2 B, this will be a very big ask for EBL. It implies that Equity will have made 5.8B in Q4 after doing 9.4 for the year to Sep-2011. It is of course possible but will be a tough act.

Note that KCB made just about 6B in Q4 but you will have seen the huge spike in KCB's other income in Q4 - upwards of 2B. I am guessing that most of this were writebacks against provisions or Bad Debts previously written off. KCB of course has a far greater stock of Bad Debts/Provisions than Equity. So EBL may not have that kind of ammunition. All the same, let's wait and see what James pulls out of his hat. BTW, I am in both so I earnestly hope he can, but ....
dunkang
#28 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:39:53 PM
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GenghisCapitalLtd wrote:
Does anyone else believe that member waits for its biggest rival in KCB to announce first? I think they do cz talking to some of my media friends, member have given them a run around on the exact date! Mwanahisa I have estimates of PBT 15.2Bn and PAT 12Bn or there about. Will wait and c au sio?!


I am a Member, but, the KCB results have just made my membership life painful. I was in South Sudan for 4 months and i concur KCB roars in the region outside Kenya.

Otherwise, i see King James declares everything and exposing himself to the parliamentary committee on the USD/KES saga!!!!
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jerry
#29 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2012 5:47:15 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Last year, Equity was meaner, and would try to out do their many rival KCB.

So,

Equity: Div Yield 6%! (at 19/- share price)

It's 1.14 for member you mean?
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#30 Posted : Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:02:01 PM
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what is equity bank waiting for? it is the first time since they listed that they will be reporting in march!
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#31 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 1:02:11 AM
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Member used to be #1 in announcing results... Now it has been beaten by BBK, KCB & even DTB... among other banks announcing results!
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#32 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 11:07:40 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Member used to be #1 in announcing results... Now it has been beaten by BBK, KCB & even DTB... among other banks announcing results!


They are not done cooking yet. ha ha. Even KCB delayed a bit after the BBK shocker.
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#33 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 11:25:54 AM
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#34 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 11:37:18 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Member used to be #1 in announcing results... Now it has been beaten by BBK, KCB & even DTB... among other banks announcing results!


Equity is first to announce its results ONLY when they are excellent and possibly on top of the stack. So in this case expect worse results than KCB.
dunkang
#35 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 1:56:24 PM
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Mpenzi wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Member used to be #1 in announcing results... Now it has been beaten by BBK, KCB & even DTB... among other banks announcing results!


Equity is first to announce its results ONLY when they are excellent and possibly on top of the stack. So in this case expect worse results than KCB.


@Mpenzi, wewe chunga sana, chunga hizo vidole zako!

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Horton
#36 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 2:12:58 PM
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Member juu!
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#37 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 9:31:30 PM
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Memba will surprise many critics. Lets wait for next week!!! People keep writing Memba off - always at their own peril.

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#38 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 9:57:50 PM
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#39 Posted : Friday, March 02, 2012 10:32:31 PM
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Equity Bank is an eagle. PAT at Q3 2011 was more than for the entire 2011. If assets click Sh220bln and margins improve by 60 bps to 5.5% then a PAT of Sh12bln is taken...which means member might declare a good dividend to send the share soaring
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#40 Posted : Saturday, March 03, 2012 7:15:53 PM
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