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Kenya Debt Watch
Cde Monomotapa
#121 Posted : Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:51:27 AM
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The GDP figure for the year used in the calculation is in KES & hence static.
Cde Monomotapa
#122 Posted : Thursday, February 02, 2012 12:18:16 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
The GDP figure for the year used in the calculation is in KES & hence static.

Thus, its the portion of our foreign debt wh4ch has shrunk due to stronger KES.
Scubidu
#123 Posted : Thursday, February 02, 2012 12:58:15 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
The GDP figure for the year used in the calculation is in KES & hence static.

Thus, its the portion of our foreign debt wh4ch has shrunk due to stronger KES.


I acknowledge the reduction in foreign debt. If the GDP figure is static, it should have been amended in July 2011 (comprising the start of a new financial year 2011/12), should it? At which point the GDP estimates is adjusted from 2.7tr to 3.2tr, thus debt to GDP drops from 55% in June 2011 to 46% in July 2011. Then the GDP figure would be static for the remainder of the 12 month period; however, this is not the case. One would question whether a smoothing of GDP is warranted? It doesn't look good to have debt to gdp rising 10% in a year then dropping 10% in a month. Even more curious is the timing of the change - it is effected in October 2011. And more importantly applied shortly before we borrow $600m.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
hisah
#124 Posted : Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:30:08 PM
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Scubidu wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
The GDP figure for the year used in the calculation is in KES & hence static.

Thus, its the portion of our foreign debt wh4ch has shrunk due to stronger KES.


I acknowledge the reduction in foreign debt. If the GDP figure is static, it should have been amended in July 2011 (comprising the start of a new financial year 2011/12), should it? At which point the GDP estimates is adjusted from 2.7tr to 3.2tr, thus debt to GDP drops from 55% in June 2011 to 46% in July 2011. Then the GDP figure would be static for the remainder of the 12 month period; however, this is not the case. One would question whether a smoothing of GDP is warranted? It doesn't look good to have debt to gdp rising 10% in a year then dropping 10% in a month. Even more curious is the timing of the change - it is effected in October 2011. And more importantly applied shortly before we borrow $600m.

I'm sure this will crop up by end of 2012 as a hot discussion...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Scubidu
#125 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:48:43 PM
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Debt money systems have become wasteful and our is not the exception. Well our debt sustainability is back in shape... 46% of GDP to be exact. But what's the cost of debt waste?

Our domestic borrowing target for the last financial year was 125 bn (amended), but only realized 109 bn by the end of that financial year. Off that debt incurred about 24 bn was unspent and now has been added back to our revenue (in addition to taxes, loans and grants). But putting this into context reveals that 22% of what we borrowed was unspent or 0.8% of GDP (that looks small but it isn't [46-0.8]).

Furthermore what was unspent was equivalent to the entire budget for the ministry of medical services for the 12 month period. What can be done about this? There are reforms being made to improve government's spending mechanism, but they are too slow to implement. Perhaps it's time to hire more accounts than economists so that these leaks are plugged.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#126 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 3:06:51 PM
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Money supply is finally higher than public debt. Public debt is now 1,486b versus 606b (up 880b) in Dec 2001, while money supply is now 1,513b versus 368b (up 1,145b) during the same period. Those 10 year changes are revealing. It's the strangest relationship that yields no conventional meaning. Is there any relationship between public debt and money supply?

For every shilling of public debt the following was money supply in the economy - the trends are interesting (see below):

Dec 00 - 60 cents
Dec 02 - 64 cents (Elections)
Dec 07 - 92 cents (Elections)
Apr 08 - 100 cents (Safaricom IPO)
Jun 09 - 90 cents (deficit budget)
Jun 11 - 93 cents (fx speculation begins)
Dec 11 - 102 cents

We see that some changes are credit linked while other spikes are caused by foreign flows (i.e. Safaricom and fx speculation last year), but essentially if you want to fund a budget deficit you need the market to be flushed. When money supply is higher than public debt, you can lower the interest on government debt. Where did all the money come from last week for the auctions?

Yields on government paper declining, debt stock rising. If you want to grow debt stock you must grow the money supply or else interest rates rise (like in November-December); however, when debt stock rises and interest rates are falling it must mean that the CB has increased money supply. Is this what is happening now?
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Cde Monomotapa
#127 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 3:38:02 PM
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The Kenya PPP Bill will become law soon (in my est.b4 end of this year) and that will open off (GoK) balance sheet financing for national infrastructure projects. That'll help GoK manage and use the National Debt Stock effectively while fast-tracking its mandate to provide Infrastructure. Good stuff smile
Cde Monomotapa
#128 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 3:41:10 PM
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PPP Bill = Public-Private Partnership Bill. (Heads up @KenGen) ;-)
Scubidu
#129 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 3:53:38 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
PPP Bill = Public-Private Partnership Bill. (Heads up @KenGen) ;-)


Seems energy infrastructure is so highly regulated. Looking at all the PPAs. They've barely scratched the surface with BOOT for energy transmission/distribution (LTWF seems to be the guinea pig). How effective could PPPs be for energy projects, unless clean energy producers get some sort of incentive for higher capital cost?

Something interesting that only KenGen can do. Get a government guaranteed loan, leverage up with subsidized funding and pass on all exchange losses to consumers through their balance sheet. Not exactly a level playing field.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Cde Monomotapa
#130 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 4:03:09 PM
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The lack of a proper PPP law has been the major draw-back. The other details shld be subject of negotiations on a case-by-case I presume. Kengen is just one example and a publicly available oppurtunity to profit from, via the NSE, this +ve change in law.
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