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The Illusion About High Dividend Yields in NSE
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2007 Posts: 2,037 Location: Lagos, Nigeria
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I see a lot of posts these days ascetaining that a good dividend yield is 10% and above of the current share price. Be aware that this is an aberration. The standard benchmarch of a good dividend yield is 4% to 6%. The double digit dividend yield you see is abnormal and peculiar to NSE. It is caused by depressed share price which is attributable to the bearish mood of the market at the moment traceable to external factors which we all know, one of which is political uncertainties in Kenya. When the chips are down NSE stocks will be better priced and the dividend yields will drop. This is however the best time to buy NSE stocks especially end of Q3 /Q4 2012 as you will get good companies at very cheap prices. Most of them will be double their current value in 2014/15 The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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young wrote:The double digit dividend yield you see is abnormal and peculiar to NSE.
It is caused by depressed share price which is attributable to the bearish mood of the market at the moment traceable to external factors which we all know, one of which isa political uncertainties in Kenya. @young to be honest you are starting to sound ilke a short term player.. For a long term investor anytime prices are "depressed" should be the time to be buying like crazy... Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/29/2006 Posts: 2,570
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@guru267. @young is just advising the speculators (short-termers!). I think it's always true that 4th-Q is BEST for buying regardless of elections. The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2007 Posts: 2,037 Location: Lagos, Nigeria
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jerry wrote:@guru267. @young is just advising the speculators (short-termers!). I think it's always true that 4th-Q is BEST for buying regardless of elections. I have been in your market since 2004. Quite unlike other bources 95 percent of the counters announce their year end or half year result within the first 3 months of the year (Jan - March). The anticipation of the results naturally drives prices. They start to even our in Q2 and become low and stable from end Q3 / Q4. A long termer like me is also interested in buying stocks at a good price, so if I have some bob to buy stocks I will wait a few mother later to pick them even cheaper than the prevailing prices. Agreed the market is depressed, it will be depress further in the months ahead. For example it makes more sence not to buy Eqty now at 19.95 cum 1.00 or 1.25 dividend rather than 16.5 in Sept or oct 2012. For both long and short term investor it is not good to take position during the euphoria or party time (Jan - March). If my advise or strategy as a long termner is useful to short term investors, that is very ok by me in the spirit of Wazua. The point is the abonormal dividend yields 7% and above will not be sustainable on the long term when stocks recover. The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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Best buy last year was more KCB @14.7 cum 1.5=10% cum 1.75=13% on that purchase only in KE as @young says. Here pessimism goes beyond extreme.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:Best buy last year was more KCB @14.7 cum 1.5=10% cum 1.75=13% on that purchase only in KE as @young says. Here pessimism goes beyond extreme. KenolKobil at 9 pia And if anyone is a longtermer as they say, the 'high' dividend yields WILL be maintained for them as they will continue holding after buying at a cheap price, ama? I mean, we've heard of guys getting higher dividends (on absolute terms) than the buying price. GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: User Joined: 1/24/2012 Posts: 1,675 Location: In Da Hood
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:Cde Monomotapa wrote:Best buy last year was more KCB @14.7 cum 1.5=10% cum 1.75=13% on that purchase only in KE as @young says. Here pessimism goes beyond extreme. KenolKobil at 9 pia And if anyone is a longtermer as they say, the 'high' dividend yields WILL be maintained for them as they will continue holding after buying at a cheap price, ama? I mean, we've heard of guys getting higher dividends (on absolute terms) than the buying price. lol. You guyz make investin look so easy.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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QW, you make FOREX trading look easy;-) GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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QW, you make FOREX trading look easy;-) GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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I totally concur with young, its the best of both worlds. Get dividends as you await long term capital gains. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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I totally concur with young, its the best of both worlds. Get dividends as you await long term capital gains. The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/25/2010 Posts: 158
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QW25091985 wrote:youcan'tstopusnow wrote:Cde Monomotapa wrote:Best buy last year was more KCB @14.7 cum 1.5=10% cum 1.75=13% on that purchase only in KE as @young says. Here pessimism goes beyond extreme. KenolKobil at 9 pia And if anyone is a longtermer as they say, the 'high' dividend yields WILL be maintained for them as they will continue holding after buying at a cheap price, ama? I mean, we've heard of guys getting higher dividends (on absolute terms) than the buying price. lol. You guyz make investin look so easy. We buy shares to make money, not to hold them to internity. If a stock price goes higher than the expected divided, sell it. Take your profit and wait for a few months to pass and you will get it again at almost the same low price. Repeat this yearly. We are in stocks for business and the business is to get returns from investment. Holding longterm is okay for those who have no time to flip their money over but if you are new in the business and you are keen on growing your money quickly flip it, flip so long as you are breaking even when you do it. However I suggest you consider the commissions you are charged when you buy and when you sell, so long as you factor these and you can still make a good profit in capital gains, well and good. In the bear market my target rate of return is at least 15% after factoring in commissions Keeping it all in the family
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:Cde Monomotapa wrote:Best buy last year was more KCB @14.7 cum 1.5=10% cum 1.75=13% on that purchase only in KE as @young says. Here pessimism goes beyond extreme. KenolKobil at 9 pia And if anyone is a longtermer as they say, the 'high' dividend yields WILL be maintained for them as they will continue holding after buying at a cheap price, ama? I mean, we've heard of guys getting higher dividends (on absolute terms) than the buying price. That does happen n' that's some good stuff to earn dividends over & above capital invested. Gotta put in work though to achieve that kind of HOLD horizon. You know, that really long & patient capital. We'll get there 1 day comrade.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 514 Location: Nairobi
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I concur with Young on this. Recently had a conversation with a land baron of sorts & a guy from a fairly large investment firm & what i came out with was that the best strategy for any investor is always flip & split & that you can only be a real long term investor if & when you are the owner of the firm or asset. We are all in it for the profit motive & whether i make the same in a month, months, year or years, i'll still have made what i wanted. 'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,129 Location: Nairobi
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:QW, you make FOREX trading look easy;-) LOL... And the score is You 3 - 0 QW Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: User Joined: 1/24/2012 Posts: 1,675 Location: In Da Hood
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VituVingiSana wrote:youcan'tstopusnow wrote:QW, you make FOREX trading look easy;-) LOL... And the score is You 3 - 0 QW sometimes when i dnt agree i usually do this : ┌П┐(⌣́_⌣̀)┌П┐
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2007 Posts: 2,037 Location: Lagos, Nigeria
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Please let us not divert this thread to something else. It is all about NSE stocks not FOREX trading. The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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As per @young, BAT is still cheap (Div. Yield 6% at 500 bob per share and 30 bob dividend). A 1:10 BAT split will see wanjikus stream in like nobody's business. Currently, an investor needs atleast 55K to just afford the minimum allowed 100 BAT shares. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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