We're stuck with De Gea but he'll come good once he gets the basics of corners and set pieces floated into the D right - he's very athletic and makes some ridiculous saves e.g.the one against Juan Mata in the game at the Bridge must be contender for save of the European season!

City put 4 past a hapless Porto - same team that won 3 trophies last season...tsk tsk tsk.

Today Rooney is not available but the lads should do the job - it'll be intersting to watch Chicha and Wellbeck being fed by Cleverley, Pogba also likely to feature. Hope selection convinces him to sign the dotted line!

I'm sure it has something to do with broadcasting rights....the Europa Liga fixtures are more than the CL ones so they can't all be played on the same night especially with two teams from Manchester playing at home.

So some people are really taking these Thursday-night matches seriously?

http://soccernet.espn.go...s?id=334862&cc=3888

Fergie's admission sums up the 2nd half performance - I can't add anything more to it. Bilbao will bundle us out with that sort of performance - the youngsters are not up to par!

Thank you teacher Magigi,

.....it's great we will not be travlling to Russia for the round of 16!!!