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Rank: Member Joined: 5/2/2007 Posts: 536
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mmarto wrote:
Commuting in such cities is easy and possible because there is a working transport system. Do we have any here? We should not attempt to copy what works elsewhere without considering all the factors.
True: There's many factors. Working Mass Transit System vs what passed to be a public transit system in Kenya but in reality is a profit making venture that only has money making as its end. From what I've read, most countries with working mass transit system have this as either a govt/county run venture, or a private/public venture. That way some basic parameters like scheduling and discipline can be streamlined. I think if we had an efficient and reliable transport network in Kenya, far less people would opt to drive. We also have a problem with the enforcement of traffic rules on the roads. Really what's so hard with keeping to ones lane on a roundabout? If something as basic as that was enforced and done so regularly, with other rules enforced as well for all (including those GK and diplomatic types), we would probably have better traffic flow instead of the growing anarchy on our roads. nkt! The other issue would be maintenance. I'm sure if you drive at night on Uhuru highway tonight, you would struggle to see some of the lane markings.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 1,590
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Economically,mats don't make sense. PSVs especially big ones, can be run profitably. And lets face it, when u are with lunatics like many mat drivers, u have to adapt. Sehemu ndio nyumba
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/6/2010 Posts: 222 Location: NAMANGA
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Mainat wrote:Economically,mats don't make sense. PSVs especially big ones, can be run profitably. And lets face it, when u are with lunatics like many mat drivers, u have to adapt. kenya bus, bus track, stage coach, habib liners, nyayo bus. all these were not operating 14 seaters It is humiliating to be associated with thieves and murderers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Could we learn something from London? Transport in LondonQuote:Transport for London (TfL) manages the London bus system by tendering out routes to private companies. This means that TfL set the routes, frequencies, fares and even the type of vehicle used, and companies bid to run these services for a fixed price for several years, with incentives and penalties in place to encourage good performance against certain criteria.
All London taxicabs are licensed by TfL, who also set taxicab fares along with strict maximum vehicle emission standards. Black cabs can be hailed on the street or hired from a taxicab rank. Taxicab fares are set by TfL and are calculated using a Taximeter in the vehicle (hence the name 'Taxicab') and are calculated using a combination of distance travelled and time.
Private Hire Vehicles (PHVs or minicabs) are cars which are not licensed to pick people up on the street. They must always be booked in advance by phone or at the operators offices. Anyone asking you if you want a 'Taxi' who is stood next to a normal looking car is a tout who is not insured or licensed to carry passengers.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/2/2010 Posts: 305
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Some decisions have to be made, might hurt at first, but if the benefits outweigh the perceived costs...its only logical to go ahead and implement. Actually,...some routes that have seen the increase in buses have seen a drastic (as much as 50%) reduction in fares. Thats a direst benefit to the common mwananchi.Of course if I own a matatu, I'd be on the fronline complaining!
“Once the last tree is cut and the last river poisoned,you will find you cannot eat your money" Traditional saying.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/6/2010 Posts: 222 Location: NAMANGA
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hindi ni riu wrote:Some decisions have to be made, might hurt at first, but if the benefits outweigh the perceived costs...its only logical to go ahead and implement. Actually,...some routes that have seen the increase in buses have seen a drastic (as much as 50%) reduction in fares. Thats a direst benefit to the common mwananchi.Of course if I own a matatu, I'd be on the fronline complaining! to lure customers, buses opt to undercut on fares. but where competition is minimal differences in fares is 10 bob It is humiliating to be associated with thieves and murderers.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2012 Posts: 1,317
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mwenza wrote:kyt wrote:the only way ease traffic jam is do away with private vehicles in nairobi. but who can dare propose that? This, unfortunately, is the truth. That is neither practical nor logical. Major cities around the world have managed the situation by offering efficient, comfortable and affordable transport systems. Example Rio and Sao Paulo have entered into PPP with investors to offer good quality, on-time transportation that is used by both middle class and low class. If we can get good, clean, comfortable and reliable buses middle class will leave their cars at home. As things stand now NBI's middle class will be caught dead riding in 14 seaters. My suggestion is GOK/NCC to auction 5 or 6 licences to exclusively run rapid transport in the City with supervision on quality, regulations etc. Just like CCK does with mobile industry.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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And talking about buses, how come our companies cannot design modern and comfortable buses like those in developed countries?  
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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jaggernaut wrote:And talking about buses, how come our companies cannot design modern and comfortable buses like those in developed countries? Manze these roads of ours (eastleigh for example) the nice looking bus up there will break into pieces. But its a good idea because some of these buses we have in terms of comfort.. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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kollabo wrote:mwenza wrote:kyt wrote:the only way ease traffic jam is do away with private vehicles in nairobi. but who can dare propose that? This, unfortunately, is the truth. That is neither practical nor logical. Major cities around the world have managed the situation by offering efficient, comfortable and affordable transport systems. Example Rio and Sao Paulo have entered into PPP with investors to offer good quality, on-time transportation that is used by both middle class and low class. If we can get good, clean, comfortable and reliable buses middle class will leave their cars at home. As things stand now NBI's middle class will be caught dead riding in 14 seaters. My suggestion is GOK/NCC to auction 5 or 6 licences to exclusively run rapid transport in the City with supervision on quality, regulations etc. Just like CCK does with mobile industry. I like your ideas but I don't think Kenyans will just give up driving their Toyotas just because there is an efficient transportation system. The private car is a status symbol and offers far greater convenience than the most efficient public transport system. There has to be a deterring cost for private vehicle owners driving into town or else we will only deal with half the problem.
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