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Are the British trying to copy MPESA?
masukuma
#11 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 11:50:54 PM
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I don't really know what is required to make mobile money a success. Kenya is in my opinion the most successful mobile money transfer country in the world. But it seems mobile money success is a chicken and egg situation. you need agents to assure customers and you need customers to assure agents. multiple countries even in africa are trying it and cannot seem to get hit the sweet spot as Safaricom did. Another country mobile money seems to be picking up in is Afghanistan (m-paisa).
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jaggernaut
#12 Posted : Saturday, February 18, 2012 12:04:04 AM
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Drunkard wrote:
@Jaggernaut
so what are you saying? are you agreeing with me or disagreeing?


With Hello money I have basically linked my account to my mobile and this has enabled me to pay bills such as Kplc, Nairobi water, DSTV, pay even my pub and supermarket bill etc and move funds from my account to mpesa and other people's accounts. So what the British now want to do is something I've been doing for ages. What they are doing is just combining mpesa and hello money. They are late adopters.
Gordon Gekko
#13 Posted : Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:26:03 PM
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@jaggernaut, you have a minor but very important fact wrong.

Your BBK mainly uses the mpesa interface to make transactions outside of the BBK system i.e. You transfer cash to mpesa then transact.

The British system links your account to a mobile no, and you can send cash to any other phone whose no is linked to a bank account. Hence to use the British system, you MUST have a bank account, something mpesa doesnt require.

The closest we have to the British plan is the Elma system, developed by Craft Silicon and is just in its nascent stage. Once all banks allow access for Elma, then you will be able to do inter bank transactions, effectively making cheques and RTGS obsolete.
Gordon Gekko
#14 Posted : Sunday, February 19, 2012 3:29:04 PM
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@jaggernaut, you have a minor but very important fact wrong.

Your BBK mainly uses the mpesa interface to make transactions outside of the BBK system i.e. You transfer cash to mpesa then transact.

The British system links your account to a mobile no, and you can send cash to any other phone whose no is linked to a bank account. Hence to use the British system, you MUST have a bank account, something mpesa doesnt require.

The closest we have to the British plan is the Elma system, developed by Craft Silicon and is just in its nascent stage. Once all banks allow access for Elma, then you will be able to do inter bank transactions, effectively making cheques and RTGS obsolete.
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#15 Posted : Monday, February 20, 2012 1:07:20 PM
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a kenyan architect Mr Ikunu has come up with the mother of all mobile payments that will rival Mpesa completely :Tangaza http://www.tangaza321.com/tan/
He has already done KES 800m biz without any significant advertising and marketing.
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a4architect.com
#16 Posted : Monday, February 20, 2012 1:28:06 PM
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see the video here
http://www.youtube.com/w...maE&feature=youtu.be
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2012
#17 Posted : Monday, February 20, 2012 2:43:57 PM
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Mpesa is a Vodacom project implemented successfully in Kenya. Most of the profits from Mpesa go directly to the mother company. Hence you can easily say mpesa is UK.

BBI will solve it
:)
muganda
#18 Posted : Monday, February 20, 2012 10:30:49 PM
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I agree with @For Sport and @2012.
For Sport wrote:
Trying to copy MPESA from who?
Is MPESA Kenyan?


Though Kenya made M-Pesa known globally, system is owned and was created by Vodafone at the behest of DFID. Much credit to Michael Joseph for investing 30m USD in a dream (not forgetting Bitange Ndemo's Prof Ndungu's support)

MPesa was not the first mobile money transfer service in any case. That distinction goes, in 1999, to Smart Money from Philippines and to NTT DocoMo's i-Mode from Japan. Note though that 2 years before in Finland, the first sale via mobile of soda/ ringtones/ banking service had already taken place.

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#19 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:32:37 AM
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@ Muganda, only the one who first came up with the Mpesa idea can tell us its history. I remember reading about an mpesa look-alike way before the kenyan mpesa in asia. The notion that large institutions e.g World bank,DFID have sole custody of truth is slowly being eroded. I had a personal experience with World bank/IFC where i discussed with them an idea then suddenly the same idea was repeated in other countries including kenya, with them owning the rights to the commercial venture.
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muganda
#20 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:48:50 AM
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@a4architect your argument on the scruples of some large organizations in some cases is fair but not with MPesa.

Success has many fathers - I have personally met at least 5 people who claim to have had the idea stolen from them. On the other hand even before its 2007 commercial launch, it was a lack lustre pilot at Faulu from 2004 and nobody was none the wiser. Even Celltel's Sokotele was launched around MPesa time then failing soon thereafter, but no one claims to have had this idea stolen.


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