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EABL firing locals for foreigners!!!
cnn
#21 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:14:41 PM
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After 24 years Jeremiah Kiereini calls it a day as EABL chairman.
VituVingiSana
#22 Posted : Monday, February 20, 2012 5:21:16 PM
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cnn wrote:
After 24 years Jeremiah Kiereini calls it a day as EABL chairman.

I wonder the recent spate of firings (or transfers) are to do with the tentacles the likes of kiereini have in EABL?
I think Diageo is trying to clean house with expats who have no connections to the power brokers like kiereini.
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cnn
#23 Posted : Monday, February 20, 2012 5:55:32 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
cnn wrote:
After 24 years Jeremiah Kiereini calls it a day as EABL chairman.

I wonder the recent spate of firings (or transfers) are to do with the tentacles the likes of kiereini have in EABL?
I think Diageo is trying to clean house with expats who have no connections to the power brokers like kiereini.

After what we have witnessed at CMC you can not trust some of these dirty old men and their foot soldiers,Diageo may have just decided it is time.
mukiha
#24 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:35:07 AM
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Let's ask a different question: Did Michael Joseph think that his transfer to Safaricom was a demotion?
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mukiha
#25 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:43:09 AM
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Why do people want to be given jobs in successful sections, departments or companies? Why not choose to be transferred as the boss in a struggling one (e.g. PAKA-POWER) and then turning it round into a roaring success?
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Jamani
#26 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:46:44 AM
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mukiha wrote:
Why do people want to be given jobs in successful sections, departments or companies? Why not choose to be transferred as the boss in a struggling one (e.g. PAKA-POWER) and then turning it round into a roaring success?


@Mukiha people like joy riding at the success of others, I respect Jonathan of Uchumi..
mukiha
#27 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:51:55 AM
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There was a guy who placed an ad in the press recently. He is looking for the post of CEO or COO with a minimum net salary of KSh800,000.

I wrote to him and asked to come and join my consultancy business on condition that he "earns" his salary and makes at least five times that for me.

I also told him that my current revenue cannot support even a tenth of the quoted salary, so it will be his responsibily to increase it to the desired level.

I am still waiting for his reply...
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Sasha
#28 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:34:13 AM
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mukiha wrote:
Why do people want to be given jobs in successful sections, departments or companies? Why not choose to be transferred as the boss in a struggling one (e.g. PAKA-POWER) and then turning it round into a roaring success?


Now this is what I'm talking about. Our business leaders (at least a significant percentage) don't like being challenged by Mr Market and they end up crumbling under such pressures. I've not seen any of the famed/renown business execs do something out of the ordinary!

I've been involved in many business recoveries to know that most underperforming businesses could have been helped if the leaders in place at the time were actually any good.

Jamani wrote:
I respect Jonathan of Uchumi..


I respect Ciano as well. He is an extremely intelligent leader. However, I feel he gets too much credit for the Uchumi revival. True he's done very well, but the way he hogs the credit is just annoying. True leaders look outside the window to apportion credit for an organization's success, and look in the mirror to apportion responsibility. The rest look in the mirror to give credit and look outside the window to apportion responsibility!



muganda
#29 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:43:24 AM
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mukiha wrote:
Let's ask a different question: Did Michael Joseph think that his transfer to Safaricom was a demotion?


Actually, Michael Joseph was reported as being quite upset with his posting to Kenya initially allowing only a 1 year horizon. He felt unappreciated and held back - always darkest before dawn.

During his tenure at Safaricom, insiders said he frowned on Vodafone and was quite pro-Kenyan. It seems his performance finally got him into the cuckoo's nest - Vodafone UK mainstream.

2012
#30 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:42:49 AM
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Jamani wrote:
I respect Jonathan of Uchumi..


I respect Ciano as well but his job in Uchumi is done and he needs to move and restructure another company eg Portland Cement or Access Kenya. His expertise is reviving and not growing. Ucumi has the worst customer experience, the shelves are horrible (stuff on the shelves might even fall on you). It's time for Uchumi to get an MD with marketing background if that place is to survive. Ask yourself, how did Ukwala, Naivas, Tuskeys etc find a foothold in Uchumi's territory?

BBI will solve it
:)
Jamani
#31 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:51:50 PM
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@ 2012, My respect for Mr. J. Ciano is based on the fact that he took up a company that no one wanted to touch and changed it to a profitable unit... you are right about the state of affairs and as you say, it could be time for him to leave (though i think a loan weaver or something was tired on him holding office for some time, that could be whats keeping him)
mozenrat
#32 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:28:58 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@luttz - I was of the same mind/thought but over time I realized that its a global marketplace... I don't want 'basic' jobs given to foreigners but at a certain level [provided all applicants are afforded the same opportunity] it has to be the best getting the job!

There are many Kenyans in Namibia, SA (even with its xenophobia), Zambia, Rwanda, Uganda & Ghana! In Tanzania, they just don't like Kenyans... using the same excuses/reasons portrayed in this discussion thread!

I agree.. in fact I suspect that somewhere in Ghana, someone is bitching over the employment of a Kenyan to do the job that they think "any Ghanaiain" could have done.
FUNKY
#33 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:23:39 AM
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