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FAKE CAR MILEAGE
chiaroscuro
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:41:09 AM
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I don't think the mileage readings on most of the cars imported from Japan is true. Especially the ones in the used-car lots. Some of them are ridiculously low! Yet when you check established Japanese exporters (IBC, Papera etc), you see a different story.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:56:32 AM
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Damn. The sky looks blue. Maybe I should start a thread on Wazua about the sky looking blue. Thanks Captain Obvious.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:07:17 AM
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Most of the importers reverse the mileage to suit the local buyers.Most of the cars have done at least 80000-110000km before importation.Toyotas are worse.
chiaroscuro
#4 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:11:41 AM
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Elder wrote:
Damn. The sky looks blue. Maybe I should start a thread on Wazua about the sky looking blue. Thanks Captain Obvious.


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#5 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:16:29 AM
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In many cases the odometer reading is true. However, some Kenyan dealers wants to please their customers (and future custormers, in that matter) by rewinding the readings. It is true that IBC Japan will give you more details of the car u want to buy than many other dealers (including a cigarette burn on the seat).
chiaroscuro
#6 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:31:54 AM
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groupielove wrote:
In many cases the odometer reading is true. However, some Kenyan dealers wants to please their customers (and future custormers, in that matter) by rewinding the readings. It is true that IBC Japan will give you more details of the car u want to buy than many other dealers (including a cigarette burn on the seat).


Yes; just go to their website and see.

A Japanese exporter offered to change the mileage on a car I was in from 125,000km to 78,000km. So even the Japs are not all honest.
jaggernaut
#7 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:12:33 PM
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mnjoro wrote:
Most of the importers reverse the mileage to suit the local buyers.Most of the cars have done at least 80000-110000km before importation.Toyotas are worse.


Imagining a person in Japan doing a daily commute of 30km a day to and from work (a distance like Safaripark to Nbi city center and back) would have covered 87,500km in 8yrs. If you throw in a weekend getaway of 100km once a month (a distance like nairobi to naivasha), which is very common in the developed world, then that's another 19,200km. So a mileage of 80,000 - 100,000km in a car makes perfect sense.
chiaroscuro
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:18:11 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
mnjoro wrote:
Most of the importers reverse the mileage to suit the local buyers.Most of the cars have done at least 80000-110000km before importation.Toyotas are worse.


Imagining a person in Japan doing a daily commute of 30km a day to work (a distance like Safaripark to Nbi city center and back) would have covered 87,500km in 8yrs. If you throw in a weekend getaway of 100km once a month (a distance like nairobi to naivasha), which is very common in the developed world, then that's another 19,200km. So a mileage of 80,000 - 100,000km in a car makes perfect sense.


Yeah; but not 50,000km!
jaggernaut
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:37:18 PM
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Some people argue that the Japanese families have more than one car and hence the supposedly low mileage in cars. It's true that many families in the developed world have 2 cars, however both spouses work and each one uses their car to work. So in the end the two cars would still have covered the 80,000km each.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:45:24 PM
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Most Japanese reputable exporters are very genuine on mileage. In fact they will not accept to change the mileage. Always insist on a copy of export documents including Jevic because the vehicles you find in the show rooms have doctored mileage, it has never been value for the money.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:19:53 PM
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Some mileage is outright uwongo. Bought a car from SBT early this year at 175000 km and it looks and feels as good as new. I have also seen car with 34,000 km yet it appears in all fairness as if it landed via the lunar landscape. Diligence Bro... Diligence

And by the way... If u check the dereg certificate, it can tell u how the mileage is accumalated the Km are there before the deregistration is done. Papera and SBT in my take tell you the truth.
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jaggernaut
#12 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:28:46 PM
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Talking of mileage, I recently used a matatu (Toyota hiace) showing 986,000km on it's digital odometer, and it was still counting. It was a KAZ still in good form. Didn't know these vehicles can clock upto a million kms.
SonOfGod
#13 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 4:45:48 PM
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couldnt resist to log in after years on seeing this.

SBT are not any better in terms of changing mileage. I had to cancel an order when they quoted two cars at 38000 km and i asked them and they admited they had changed.

when buying a car nowadays dont even ask for mileage - its no longer a valid measure anywhere.
jerry
#14 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:15:01 PM
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SonOfGod wrote:
couldnt resist to log in after years on seeing this.

SBT are not any better in terms of changing mileage. I had to cancel an order when they quoted two cars at 38000 km and i asked them and they admited they had changed.

when buying a car nowadays dont even ask for mileage - its no longer a valid measure anywhere.

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