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theking
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:50:22 PM
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i'm thinking of buying a few (50 to 100) small jogoos,fatten them then sell them at profit. Any1 in this business? pls advice abt the market,source of chicks,food prices,any risks involved.
seppuku
#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:04:36 PM
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theking wrote:
i'm thinking of buying a few (50 to 100) small jogoos,fatten them then sell them at profit. Any1 in this business? pls advice abt the market,source of chicks,food prices,any risks involved.


Whatever you do don't start with chicks. They take ages to turn into meat, and by then they'll have eaten too much of your food to be profitable. True, you could buy older cockerels, but I can't think which farmer will be willing to sell theirs to you at a good enough price to break even. An agribusiness expert once told me that you simply can't create a business with kienyeji chicken. Try Kenbro, they have many of the same advantages of indigenous breeeds without the slow growth rate. Ama wengine hapa wanafikiriaje?
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wa P
#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 5:54:41 PM
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seppuku wrote:
theking wrote:
i'm thinking of buying a few (50 to 100) small jogoos,fatten them then sell them at profit. Any1 in this business? pls advice abt the market,source of chicks,food prices,any risks involved.


Whatever you do don't start with chicks. They take ages to turn into meat, and by then they'll have eaten too much of your food to be profitable. True, you could buy older cockerels, but I can't think which farmer will be willing to sell theirs to you at a good enough price to break even. An agribusiness expert once told me that you simply can't create a business with kienyeji chicken. Try Kenbro, they have many of the same advantages of indigenous breeeds without the slow growth rate. Ama wengine hapa wanafikiriaje?


Those are lies. Kenbro tastes worse than cardboard. They are as yuk as broiler - even worse.

You can do a kienyeji business if you have plenty of land with good vegetation. I know someone who has put them on about 3 acres. His target is daily sales of 50 after 6 months. He has about 50 hens for brooding, and he separates jogoos from hens from early stages.
The jogoos are largely free range, with token feed supplements such as maize, millet...
He does not buy real feeds.
The farm is under mature trees, brings plenty of worms.
His stock today is about 1000.
jaggernaut
#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:21:17 PM
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theking wrote:
i'm thinking of buying a few (50 to 100) small jogoos,fatten them then sell them at profit. Any1 in this business? pls advice abt the market,source of chicks,food prices,any risks involved.


Will give you my views as a consumer. I believe there's a huge market for kienyeji chicken. Was talking to the guy i normally buy the kienyeji kuku from here at the estate in Nairobi and he said that due to shortages in supply they are currently getting their supply from Marakwet and West Pokot. He's selling a small jogoo at 700 bob and he sells about 70 kukus each day at his kibanda. Thats about 50k per day and i know he should be making at least 30pc profit margin i.e about 17k per day or 510k per month profit.
seppuku
#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:54:16 PM
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wa P wrote:
seppuku wrote:
theking wrote:
i'm thinking of buying a few (50 to 100) small jogoos,fatten them then sell them at profit. Any1 in this business? pls advice abt the market,source of chicks,food prices,any risks involved.


Whatever you do don't start with chicks. They take ages to turn into meat, and by then they'll have eaten too much of your food to be profitable. True, you could buy older cockerels, but I can't think which farmer will be willing to sell theirs to you at a good enough price to break even. An agribusiness expert once told me that you simply can't create a business with kienyeji chicken. Try Kenbro, they have many of the same advantages of indigenous breeeds without the slow growth rate. Ama wengine hapa wanafikiriaje?


Those are lies. Kenbro tastes worse than cardboard. They are as yuk as broiler - even worse.

You can do a kienyeji business if you have plenty of land with good vegetation. I know someone who has put them on about 3 acres. His target is daily sales of 50 after 6 months. He has about 50 hens for brooding, and he separates jogoos from hens from early stages.
The jogoos are largely free range, with token feed supplements such as maize, millet...
He does not buy real feeds.
The farm is under mature trees, brings plenty of worms.
His stock today is about 1000.


Really? Unless what I ate was something else. You just can't compare the meat quality of Kenbro to that of broilers. Kenbro is by far superior. What are the experiences of others here?

PS: I think there are more profitable things to do with "plenty of land with good vegetation" than rearing kienyeji chicken. Fuga hata ng'ombe wa maziwa.
Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
seppuku
#6 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:59:37 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
theking wrote:
i'm thinking of buying a few (50 to 100) small jogoos,fatten them then sell them at profit. Any1 in this business? pls advice abt the market,source of chicks,food prices,any risks involved.


Will give you my views as a consumer. I believe there's a huge market for kienyeji chicken. Was talking to the guy i normally buy the kienyeji kuku from here at the estate in Nairobi and he said that due to shortages in supply they are currently getting their supply from Marakwet and West Pokot. He's selling a small jogoo at 700 bob and he sells about 70 kukus each day at his kibanda. Thats about 50k per day and i know he should be making at least 30pc profit margin i.e about 17k per day or 510k per month profit.


True that. The demand is there. Enormous demand. The trouble is satisfying it profitably. I still insist that kienyeji chicken take way too long to grow. It's in the genes, and the reason broilers and other faster growing variants are developed in the first place. The reason your friend makes money is because he's a middleman and most likely buys his stock from hobbyist chicken farmers. People who keep kienyeji chicken are rarely in it for profit.
Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
theking
#7 Posted : Thursday, February 09, 2012 6:48:54 AM
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thanx for ur responses. i think sourcing small jogoos from farmers at a price gd enuf to sell at a profit myt b quite difficult. best thing is to get hens to brood. hw long does a kienyeji chic take to mature?
digitek1
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:05:52 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
theking wrote:
i'm thinking of buying a few (50 to 100) small jogoos,fatten them then sell them at profit. Any1 in this business? pls advice abt the market,source of chicks,food prices,any risks involved.


Will give you my views as a consumer. I believe there's a huge market for kienyeji chicken. Was talking to the guy i normally buy the kienyeji kuku from here at the estate in Nairobi and he said that due to shortages in supply they are currently getting their supply from Marakwet and West Pokot. He's selling a small jogoo at 700 bob and he sells about 70 kukus each day at his kibanda. Thats about 50k per day and i know he should be making at least 30pc profit margin i.e about 17k per day or 510k per month profit.

I may be wrong..but then I could be right
Gathige
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 09, 2012 11:22:36 PM
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@ theking

I have a friend who rears them. His method is to let them scavenge in the open and supplements feeding using the bad maize after harvest mixed with bran. Main threat are predators and chicken thieves. His multiply very fast and he makes more money in eggs which have a premium price and selling Jogoos.

All the best

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mkeiy
#10 Posted : Friday, February 10, 2012 9:02:49 AM
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It's profitable. My neighbor has been doing it for close to 2 years. To make them grow faster, he supplements the maize and thrashed maize cobs with broilers mash. With money from eggs and chicken sales, he ain't doing bad.
radio
#11 Posted : Friday, February 10, 2012 9:09:54 AM
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Interesting article on Kienyeji chicken

Planning is important
Feeding indigenous chicken is a challenge
Feed for all stages of growth
Archer
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 4:31:43 PM
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hello digitek 1 which estate is that in nairobi and can you ask that guy for his number so that i can supply him with kienyegi chicken i have a big flock i wont mind selling to him to replesh your supply...
Kabird
#13 Posted : Monday, April 14, 2014 4:32:35 AM
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Pleasant farms sells improved kari kienyeji and regular kieyeji chicks...we are taking july/aug orders for KARI...we do have regular Kienyeji for may...
https://www.facebook.com/pleasantfarmsltd
Muheani
#14 Posted : Monday, April 14, 2014 9:52:36 AM
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[quote=Kabird]Pleasant farms sells improved kari kienyeji and regular kieyeji chicks...we are taking july/aug orders for KARI...we do have regular Kienyeji for may...
https://www.facebook.com/pleasantfarmsltd[/quote]


Problem is...the Eggs..they are as big as normal layer eggs with same colour....convincing someone they are kienyeji eggs is hard work.

And they eat as much as normal layer chicken and mature in about 5-6 months.



Kabird
#15 Posted : Monday, April 14, 2014 2:01:12 PM
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This is where if possible buy local from a reputable farm...Kenyans are always duped by middlemen...Be a smart shopper by doing your due diligence.

Muheani wrote:
[quote=Kabird]Pleasant farms sells improved kari kienyeji and regular kieyeji chicks...we are taking july/aug orders for KARI...we do have regular Kienyeji for may...
https://www.facebook.com/pleasantfarmsltd[/quote]


Problem is...the Eggs..they are as big as normal layer eggs with same colour....convincing someone they are kienyeji eggs is hard work.

And they eat as much as normal layer chicken and mature in about 5-6 months.




stockshunter
#16 Posted : Monday, April 14, 2014 9:27:01 PM
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theking wrote:
i'm thinking of buying a few (50 to 100) small jogoos,fatten them then sell them at profit. Any1 in this business? pls advice abt the market,source of chicks,food prices,any risks involved.

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