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Is graffiti art or vandalism?
Crown Berger
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:47:46 PM

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Let me admit that i often get amazed by what some of these graffiti "artist" manage to create under the cover of darkness. The trouble is, its unsolicited! but give it to some of them- its a case of talent finding expression in a rogue way.

Check out these ones:

http://www.smashingmagaz...tiful-graffiti-artworks/
muganda
#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:04:02 PM
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@Crown Berger, beautiful. Definitely art, often illicit.

Origin of the word Graffiti Italian word "scratched", Greek "to write" ~ in art history, works of art produced by scratching a design onto a surface, like in pottery.

Ric dees
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:04:46 PM
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Art in it's most highest form, The world stood up and took notice when Andy Warhol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol took under his wings graffiti artist Jena-Michel Basquiat http://en.wikipedia.org/...i/Jean-Michel_Basquiat.

Big brands have embraced grafiti artist to conceptualise their brands ie Weetabix, Pepsi Mcdonalds just to name a few.

However my favourite graffitti artist has to be Banksy, contraversial, anonymous extraordinaire, i am privelaged to own one of his pieces 'Girl holding a bomb' really puts into focus whats wrong with this world (Not sure many people get it though)

sample some of Banksy work below including girl holding a bomb. http://www.boredpanda.co...t-crimes-done-by-banksy/

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butterflyke
#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:36:22 PM
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Me thinks that graffiti became synonymous with vandalism much faster than the creativity and skill could be associated with it.

Definitely art!!!
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masukuma
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:38:23 PM
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Ric dees wrote:

Art in it's most highest form, The world stood up and took notice when Andy Warhol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Warhol took under his wings graffiti artist Jena-Michel Basquiat http://en.wikipedia.org/...i/Jean-Michel_Basquiat.

Big brands have embraced grafiti artist to conceptualise their brands ie Weetabix, Pepsi Mcdonalds just to name a few.

However my favourite graffitti artist has to be Banksy, contraversial, anonymous extraordinaire, i am privelaged to own one of his pieces 'Girl holding a bomb' really puts into focus whats wrong with this world (Not sure many people get it though)

sample some of Banksy work below including girl holding a bomb. http://www.boredpanda.co...-crimes-done-by-banksy/



Which world is this? ama the world is the 600m people in Europe and USA?
Who are these people?
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tycho
#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:46:29 PM
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Crown Berger wrote:
Let me admit that i often get amazed by what some of these graffiti "artist" manage to create under the cover of darkness. The trouble is, its unsolicited! but give it to some of them- its a case of talent finding expression in a rogue way.


Art is always unsolicited. Art is vandalism.
maligumu
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:55:38 PM
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I thought guys from Nyanza were the kings of grafitti especially kwa loo . But graffiti ya Uhuru is too much ! Hata our new installations like thika rd . Who should pay for clearing that mess ?
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:31:30 AM
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Vandalism. Why cant they go do their art on there fathers wall and not mine. Am sure their parents will appreciate it more than I would
Ric dees
#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:49:50 PM
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@Masukuma, as they say ignorance is no defence..The 'art' world embraced graffitti artist as peers thats what i meant the world stood up and took notice,You clearly have no idea the kind stature of Andy warhol had in the art world and for him to embrace and take under his wings a graffiti artist was like a coup in military terms (i believe you are much brighter now) go to any museum round the world, and you will not fail to see works by a graffitti artist and this includes the Louvre in France and Guggenheim in Spain i know as have been to both..(this are considered to be the 2 greatest museums of art in the world).

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Crown Berger
#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:26:50 PM

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@ Ric dees. There is no question about the talent some of these graffiti creators posses. What lots of people hate about their chosen medium of expression, is the permanency, the way it defaces private property and the way goons have taken to spraying walls in support of one politician or another

I think graffiti can be authorized for public social campaigns (like in the war against HIV or corruption)for limited periods.
tycho
#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 3:47:57 PM
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Crown Berger wrote:
@ Ric dees. There is no question about the talent some of these graffiti creators posses. What lots of people hate about their chosen medium of expression, is the permanency, the way it defaces private property and the way goons have taken to spraying walls in support of one politician or another

I think graffiti can be authorized for public social campaigns (like in the war against HIV or corruption)for limited periods.


The acquisition of private property is by itself an act of 'vandalism' because it is an 'unsolicitated' act of will in an environment that no one actuall owns.

If one erects a form in such a context, then the form is assimilated into space, and no one owns this space . . . unless one wishes to deny his fellow beings freedom.

The private property is under the law of public experience, and one should not worry so much about the content of graffiti on his wall. Hiding it is repression, a limititation of human growth.
Ric dees
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 08, 2012 4:17:29 PM
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@Crown Berger..I choose to look and think differently, alot of the graffiti artist have been known to champion different ideologies that the MSM (main stream media) consider "disturbing" consider this if i was to paint a message on a train that travels to Nairobi from Kisumu enough with clanism we want progressive development in the Lake region...what do you think will be the impact over-time knowing all too well this train passes through Kibera?? Believe me the regional stakeholders will have something to say bout that train/message.You get my drift... graffiti artists use a medium that will elicit controversy and this will evoke the desired reaction..


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