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How ATM Card Fraud Happens
subzero
#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:23:09 AM
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so, there is this equity bank customer who found out that 20K was being withdrawn from his account via his ATM everyday for about a week.
He only found out when one day he goes to the ATM to withdraw money only to be met by the rude shock.
Now for some reason, his ATM was also retained by the machine on that day.
Surprisingly even after his account was mezwad, a further 20K was still withdrawn.
What does equity bank to say about this? "they are not liability because 'he probably told his ATM PIN' to a friend or relative"

so, somebody advise the guy on the way forward..
How exactly do this kind of frauds happen and best way to stay safe?


I guess that its probably a case of card cloning by attaching a device at the ATM , then getting the PIN by peeping or by placing a camera nearby.

But then again, all ATMs are manned

Also i think that with agency banking and people swiping their cards wherever whenever also poses a huge risk of card cloning,

by the way, i hear KCB is worst hit.

maoni?

mnandii
#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 28, 2011 8:56:29 AM
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subzero wrote:
so, there is this equity bank customer who found out that 20K was being withdrawn from his account via his ATM everyday for about a week.
He only found out when one day he goes to the ATM to withdraw money only to be met by the rude shock.
Now for some reason, his ATM was also retained by the machine on that day.
Surprisingly even after his account was mezwad, a further 20K was still withdrawn.
What does equity bank to say about this? "they are not liability because 'he probably told his ATM PIN' to a friend or relative"

so, somebody advise the guy on the way forward..
How exactly do this kind of frauds happen and best way to stay safe?


I guess that its probably a case of card cloning by attaching a device at the ATM , then getting the PIN by peeping or by placing a camera nearby.

But then again, all ATMs are manned

Also i think that with agency banking and people swiping their cards wherever whenever also poses a huge risk of card cloning,

by the way, i here KCB is worst hit.

maoni?



Apart from incoherence, I thought from your title u were the one to tell us how ATM CARD FRAUD HAPPENS.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:15:10 AM
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I also thought @subZero had found a way of bringing this to above zero!
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:34:43 PM
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This is hogwash reporting!
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Thiong'o
#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:52:56 PM
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Kenyan tech innovators seek to stem rising ATM fraud

Information technology innovators at Usalama Innovative Systems Ltd are seeking to stem the rising tide of related fraud with a new software that works together with the core banking software.
The company’s co-owners Dennis Karema and Tolbert, an IT professional and a banker respectively, decided to design software that reduces the exposure of ATM users by limiting the proportion of funds that fraudsters can access.

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/9hyitr/-/index.html

Stealth
#6 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2012 10:53:06 PM
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most of the ATM's/lobbies have cameras. tell him to ask for the footage at the time he is alleged to have withdrawn the cash.
D32
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:13:40 PM
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Money will be withdrawn from an ATM, provided that the card (original or clone) matches the entered pin.

The least that we can do now is to do all in our power to prevent the card from being cloned and from disclosing the pin.

Such as but not limited to:
- Using ATM's that have devices that prevent cloning tools to be inserted
- Minimizing the use of cards, even in supermarkets, restaurants & shops. The fraudster may pretend that the first machine does not work, then tries it on the second, which works, little does the victim know that the card's details have just been captured. Withdraw enough to minimize the frequency of ATM withdrawals. Could even transfer cash to Mobile Money.
- Using one hand to enter the pin, and the other to cover. The body can also be used to block particular persons from seeing the keypad.
- Change the pin from the initial one that came with the card.
- Store the card safe.
- For online cash theft, all that the thief needs is your card number and the card security / verification code, which are all on the debit / credit card. Safe storage cannot be overemphasized. When doing a purchase, it is sad that the card will have to be handed over to someone to swipe, then that someone will have to confirm that the signature matches, and it is at that point that they can easily get the cards security / verification code.

Advice would be, NOT to get a card on an account that has a lot of money.
For convenience, get a secondary account for the card, let the account have just has enough money to meet your needs. Do not store extra that you cannot afford to loose. If for example, you are on an international engagement or somewhere locally and you deplete the cash in the card, have online banking access to the acc with cash and do a transfer to the card's acc. The transaction should be fast if the two account are in the same bank.

The biggest changes to curb almost all ATM fraud will need to come from the banks and not the users. One of the simple things that can be done is to introduce SMS code verification. When a card is inserted, and the pin entered, the bank sends the owner a code via SMS that needs to be entered before any transaction can take place. A fraudster will not be able to withdraw without the code that is randomly generated for every transaction, unless the thief also has the phone that is on and unlocked, unless the fraudster also has the sim's pin. On contact, the bank can stop sending the code and block the card.

I have used such a system in doing online banking, as in, part of logging in involves entering the randomly generated code for that particular session, but I'm yet to see it implemented in ATM's for it will almost eradicate ATM fraud.
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josiah33
#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:54:32 AM
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Thiong'o wrote:
Kenyan tech innovators seek to stem rising ATM fraud

Information technology innovators at Usalama Innovative Systems Ltd are seeking to stem the rising tide of related fraud with a new software that works together with the core banking software.
The company’s co-owners Dennis Karema and Tolbert, an IT professional and a banker respectively, decided to design software that reduces the exposure of ATM users by limiting the proportion of funds that fraudsters can access.

http://www.businessdaily...2/-/9hyitr/-/index.html


I think this is a good idea but i still feel it's self-defeatist to announce such plans to the public. Now every thief will require that you give him two pin numbers when he kidnaps you and hold you captive until he cleans your account.
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