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redondo wrote:I support the 7k minimum pay for house-helps. My wife and i have a dutiful house-help who has worked for us for close to 4 years.Her October salary was 6K but in November we payed her 7K gross and deducted a total of 480 for NHIF and NSSF.
I think for what some of them do(raise our kids, clean our homes, cook, etc) 7K is not too much. The issue should be that the pay is pegged to performance. so if she doesn't deserve it,fire her and get one who deserves it.
Secondly, some people are just mean. How do you justify paying your hous-help 2k per month yet you spend 5K at a bar in one sitting every week?
maneno ya house help wacha kuingilia. Men should keep off the house help welfare department. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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redondo wrote:I support the 7k minimum pay for house-helps. My wife and i have a dutiful house-help who has worked for us for close to 4 years.Her October salary was 6K but in November we payed her 7K gross and deducted a total of 480 for NHIF and NSSF.
I think for what some of them do(raise our kids, clean our homes, cook, etc) 7K is not too much. The issue should be that the pay is pegged to performance. so if she doesn't deserve it,fire her and get one who deserves it.
Secondly, some people are just mean. How do you justify paying your hous-help 2k per month yet you spend 5K at a bar in one sitting every week?
Redondo, hii conclusion yako is from where?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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redondo wrote:I support the 7k minimum pay for house-helps. My wife and i have a dutiful house-help who has worked for us for close to 4 years.Her October salary was 6K but in November we payed her 7K gross and deducted a total of 480 for NHIF and NSSF.
I think for what some of them do(raise our kids, clean our homes, cook, etc) 7K is not too much. The issue should be that the pay is pegged to performance. so if she doesn't deserve it,fire her and get one who deserves it.
Secondly, some people are just mean. How do you justify paying your hous-help 2k per month yet you spend 5K at a bar in one sitting every week?
Then tomorrow you run to wazua to report a daktari who has touched her twin towers while (mis)treating her. Being too much possessive. Hiyo dept wachie mama watoto. "Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 161 Location: nairobi
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YesuWangu wrote:redondo wrote:I support the 7k minimum pay for house-helps. My wife and i have a dutiful house-help who has worked for us for close to 4 years.Her October salary was 6K but in November we payed her 7K gross and deducted a total of 480 for NHIF and NSSF.
I think for what some of them do(raise our kids, clean our homes, cook, etc) 7K is not too much. The issue should be that the pay is pegged to performance. so if she doesn't deserve it,fire her and get one who deserves it.
Secondly, some people are just mean. How do you justify paying your hous-help 2k per month yet you spend 5K at a bar in one sitting every week?
Redondo, hii conclusion yako is from where? Forget my conclusion. My point is 7K si mbaya for a job well done
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2007 Posts: 2,047
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wewe @ Tebes,you do not want to address the issue of hse help's salo??!.I imagine that even if mama watoto addresses it,it will affect you since the Tebes household might have to adjust the monthly budget to reflect the new changes?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/23/2010 Posts: 1,229
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What does the least paid government employee earn?
Can this employee afford to hire a domestic worker @ 7,000 per month?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2007 Posts: 2,047
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For Sport wrote:What does the least paid government employee earn?
Can this employee afford to hire a domestic worker @ 7,000 per month?
That is the dilemma but I think if we reason this way, a certain category of people will remain underpaid and overworked.And it is easy to even argue that most people are underpaid.However,Some house helps wake up at 5am and sleep at midnight.......and all that for 2K  something ought to be done.......That is why in UK or US for example,very few people can afford to have a full time house-help,because there is law that protects them from exploitation
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/23/2010 Posts: 1,229
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famooz wrote:For Sport wrote:What does the least paid government employee earn?
Can this employee afford to hire a domestic worker @ 7,000 per month?
That is the dilemma but I think if we reason this way, a certain category of people will remain underpaid and overworked.And it is easy to even argue that most people are underpaid.However,Some house helps wake up at 5am and sleep at midnight.......and all that for 2K something ought to be done.......That is why in UK or US for example,very few people can afford to have a full time house-help,because there is law that protects them from exploitation True but I see quite a number of them being locked out of whatever employment there is because of the employers' inability to pay the set minimum. Lets not forget that most of them are unskilled. What alternatives do they have if they cannot get an employer who can afford to pay 7k? The fact that "I" can afford to pay 7k should not be the determinant here. This government (which cannot afford to fairly remunerate professionals it has employed) should not be dictating terms to private citizens who are contributing to reducing unemployment in the country.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 677 Location: Nairobi
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For Sport wrote:famooz wrote:For Sport wrote:What does the least paid government employee earn?
Can this employee afford to hire a domestic worker @ 7,000 per month?
That is the dilemma but I think if we reason this way, a certain category of people will remain underpaid and overworked.And it is easy to even argue that most people are underpaid.However,Some house helps wake up at 5am and sleep at midnight.......and all that for 2K something ought to be done.......That is why in UK or US for example,very few people can afford to have a full time house-help,because there is law that protects them from exploitation True but I see quite a number of them being locked out of whatever employment there is because of the employers' inability to pay the set minimum. Lets not forget that most of them are unskilled. What alternatives do they have if they cannot get an employer who can afford to pay 7k? The fact that "I" can afford to pay 7k should not be the determinant here. This government (which cannot afford to fairly remunerate professionals it has employed) should not be dictating terms to private citizens who are contributing to reducing unemployment in the country. 
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