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simonmaina71@gmail.com
#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:44:48 AM
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It takes ages for a stock to double but days for it to halve...think of Kq which once traded at 66 and is now 19sh...am sure even a longterm investor is feeling the effect.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:22:48 AM
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I got this thing at 40's and whenever its mentioned i release some carbon dioxide.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:42:50 AM
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simonmaina71@gmail.com wrote:
It takes ages for a stock to double but days for it to halve...think of Kq which once traded at 66 and is now 19sh...am sure even a longterm investor is feeling the effect.

It once traded around 110. I wont let anyone know that I still have a tiny lot bought at 80 smile.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:21:16 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
I got this thing at 40's and whenever its mentioned i release some carbon dioxide.


I fear for the people around when that C02 is released, it must really be coming with pain from deep inside.....
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:37:34 AM
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onces bought a sizable amount at 60 and sold at 52.counted my losses and moved on.
Airline stocks are ulcers central.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:46:20 AM
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bartum wrote:
onces bought a sizable amount at 60 and sold at 52.counted my losses and moved on.
Airline stocks are ulcers central.


And my broker cum investment advisor is keen on me investing heavy into KQ.... ulcers are painful more so those that are central......
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:44:19 AM
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I have said it before and I will say it again...a seasoned trader cuts his losses when he realizes he was wrong...perhaps if you cut your losses at 70...it would have been better...most investors cant swallow their pride and cut losses which is why they have lost 330 billion
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:00:49 PM
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LOL... I think KQ should de-list ;-)

What happens is that there is no market for the shares thus we wait for 10 years thereafter!

IMHO, if KQ can stay on the straight & narrow... moderate the growth to match its cash availability... then the EPS could be 20/year (or better in 10 years)...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:04:06 PM
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simonmaina71@gmail.com wrote:
It takes ages for a stock to double but days for it to halve...think of Kq which once traded at 66 and is now 19sh...am sure even a longterm investor is feeling the effect.

IS IT WISE TO BUY IT NOW AT SH.19?
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:28:16 PM
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@Josiah...the market has a mind of its own which is totally unpredictable...the only way to know the right time is by waiting for the trend to start rising...then buying promptly and then ridding until the trent you are profiting from is over...then you sell..there is no sure way of picking a top
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 12:31:47 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
LOL... I think KQ should de-list ;-)

What happens is that there is no market for the shares thus we wait for 10 years thereafter!

IMHO, if KQ can stay on the straight & narrow... moderate the growth to match its cash availability... then the EPS could be 20/year (or better in 10 years)...


The purchase of 9 Dreamliners at a cost of between Ksh 17.5 - 20B each (thats abt Ksh 160-180B Capital requirement) should really depress dividends for a long time to come as they service the debt. Seems the rights issue proceeds will only be enough (if they manage to raise the cash) for the down payment of the 9 Dream liners.

I think KQ may be bitting more than it can chew.....should have done a gradual acquisition of the planes.

Anyway, time will tell.

Happy Hunting.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, December 07, 2011 11:20:09 PM
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simonmaina71@gmail.com wrote:
@Josiah...the market has a mind of its own which is totally unpredictable...the only way to know the right time is by waiting for the trend to start rising...then buying promptly and then ridding until the trent you are profiting from is over...then you sell..there is no sure way of picking a top

@simon Its easier said than done. You can however trade in the fantasy market and show us how its done, at no risk.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:40:20 AM
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No strategy is even 80percent accurate when dealing in stocks...its upon everyone to look for a method best suited for him...whether it is buying and holding,cutting losses etc...at the end of the year,what matters is how much money you made and not the methodology used....THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS
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#14 Posted : Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:13:50 AM
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@simonmaina71@gmail.com. give us the way forward . you seem to be knowledgeable in stock matters..
should we be buying now ?
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#15 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:29:21 AM
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Q3 passenger numbers up by 15.4% but rights cloud continues to spell doom for the share.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:57:54 AM
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the deal
#17 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:18:46 PM
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Kenya Airways Q3 2011/12 Operational Performance: My Analysis

On this link
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#18 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2012 12:53:31 AM
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KQ has been a bad buy for a long time,i remember in the 90s when the share price hit a low of 5.75,i was just 9 years but remember it well;it was sluggish for a while.....managed to jump in at 60 as it was going up,exited at 132 either in 05 or 06(can't remember) and the following week it was on a downward trend and has since then been going down.interesting thing is that most brokers including Aly khan Satchu really advise guys to hop on esp when it was in the 40s range but is there a point of buying a stock for ksh and it makes a 30% appreciation in three months when equity jumped from ksh15 to 25 over the same period? moral:do your own research!!if you cannot take into consideration what the brokers say but make your own decision. KQ is and shall be a sinking ship for a while.even post 2013 it shall perhaps hit a very optimistic 50 bob......
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#19 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2012 5:57:00 PM
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KQ issues profit warning. Earnings for the financial year 2011/2012 will be 25% less than the previous year.
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the deal
#20 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2012 6:33:48 PM
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It was Common knowledge that KQ was not doing well...look operating margins for half year.
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