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Jamani		#1 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 11:27:03 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554		What are the advantages of being in top 10 list of shareholders of a company especially being in the 8th to the 10th position? where the top 3 control over 50% are there any special benefits?
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guru267		#2 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 11:35:07 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi		Jamani wrote: What are the advantages of being in top 10 list of shareholders of a company especially being in the 8th to the 10th position? where the top 3 control over 50% are there any special benefits? The top 10 shareholders list is merely a formality and simply a list of the largest owners in the company.. It can help users of statements to determine who controls the board and who's got majority vote. As for the shareholders themselves the list means absolutely nothing to them... Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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Jamani		#3 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 11:40:21 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554		@Guru, interesting very interesting one pumps in so much and gets the same treatment as Wanjiku...
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Jamani		#4 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 11:51:51 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554		Jamani wrote: @Guru, interesting very interesting one pumps in so much and gets the same treatment as Wanjiku... One thing I have also noted in the top 10 list (of companies I have had shares in) its either organisations or men....where are the ladies?
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic		#5 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 2:34:52 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli		Jamani wrote: Jamani wrote: @Guru, interesting very interesting one pumps in so much and gets the same treatment as Wanjiku... One thing I have also noted in the top 10 list (of companies I have had shares in) its either organisations or men....where are the ladies? Catch them on the management team. BTW they make very good employees, and prefer Security to Freedom! @SufficientlyP
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Gordon Gekko		#6 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 2:48:48 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760		Jamani wrote: Jamani wrote: @Guru, interesting very interesting one pumps in so much and gets the same treatment as Wanjiku... One thing I have also noted in the top 10 list (of companies I have had shares in) its either organisations or men....where are the ladies? What about the ladies who run top 10 investors? BTW what happened to Wanjku Mugane? At least if you are top 10 you get invited to all investor breifings (read breakfast) and when KQ bring over a dreamliner/embraer you get a free ride
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VituVingiSana		#7 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 3:03:22 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,261 Location: Nairobi		Top 10 is just a list... Those who have 26% (singly or combined) have clout... Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Jamani		#8 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 3:04:19 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554		Gordon Gekko wrote: Jamani wrote: [quote=Jamani]@Guru, interesting very interesting one pumps in so much and gets the same treatment as Wanjiku... One thing I have also noted in the top 10 list (of companies I have had shares in) its either organisations or men....where are the ladies? What about the ladies who run top 10 investors? Could be many for one At least if you are top 10 you get invited to all investor breifings (read breakfast) and when KQ bring over a dreamliner/embraer you get a free ride I also think mambo na insider info, supply contracts etc..[/quote]
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Jamani		#9 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 3:12:53 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554		VituVingiSana wrote: Top 10 is just a list... Those who have 26% (singly or combined) have clout... . I agree its just a list likini iko mambo these boys get appeased better than Wanjiku and at a personal level.....they hardly sell even when the company looks gloomy, year in year out you see the same names with shares to some extent increasing... though no doubt with 26%....
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sparkly		#10 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:20:06 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi		Top 10 list is a NSE Corporate Governance and Ethics compliance requirement. Life is short. Live passionately.
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youcan'tstopusnow		#11 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:23:42 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa		Why do guys insist on hiding behind 'Nominees'? Ama ni pesa za wizi... GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Jamani		#12 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:31:00 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554		sparkly wrote: Top 10 list is a NSE Corporate Governance and Ethics compliance requirement. True that, but what advantages do these top dogs receive
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Sober		#13 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:31:51 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604		Just thought it would be worth noting that at KPLC we have an individual in the top 10 who is CK with 0.79 percent shareholding African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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youcan'tstopusnow		#14 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:38:42 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa		Sober wrote: Just thought it would be worth noting that at KPLC we have an individual in the top 10 who is CK with 0.79 percent shareholding But like it was stated before, hapo yeye ni 'Wanjiku' tu... A very rich Wanjiku though . Gava calls all the shots... Jamani, lets just say that the main advantage is you have more shares meaning a higher net worth, and more dividends for you. And maybe some of those goodies GG mentioned... GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Sober		#15 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 9:52:00 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604		Most of the listed stocks were owned by the government initialy and judging from the par value it means the shares become pricier hence individuals have to cough more moneyas the Govts shareholding is reduced. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Jamani		#16 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 10:08:44 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554		youcan'tstopusnow wrote: Sober wrote: Just thought it would be worth noting that at KPLC we have an individual in the top 10 who is CK with 0.79 percent shareholding But like it was stated before, hapo yeye ni 'Wanjiku' tu... A very rich Wanjiku though . Gava calls all the shots... Jamani, lets just say that the main advantage is you have more shares meaning a higher net worth, and more dividends for you. And maybe some of those goodies GG mentioned... Agreed but I think there is a lot more behind the scenes..... looking at cmc high net worth guys might have been paid by either side for their votes....
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osa2		#17 Posted : Monday, December 05, 2011 11:58:58 PM
Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/5/2010 Posts: 54 Location: USA		If U genuinely got your wealth, it is a way of displaying it without fear. That is why CK was ranked among Africa’s richest as his wealth is abit consolidated annd can be tracked. Our Politian thieves prefer to own tiny pieces here and there with proxy names as they cannot account their loot. They will never make the list.
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Gordon Gekko		#18 Posted : Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:03:34 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760		osa2 wrote: If U genuinely got your wealth, it is a way of displaying it without fear. That is why CK was ranked among Africa’s richest as his wealth is abit consolidated annd can be tracked. Our Politian thieves prefer to own tiny pieces here and there with proxy names as they cannot account their loot. They will never make the list. Yes, can be tracked to that supermarket chain, that car hire company.....
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FUNKY		#19 Posted : Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:46:34 AM
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