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hisah
#1821 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:13:19 PM
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Investors continue to shun German bonds, now on day 2 - http://www.telegraph.co....-debt-crisis-talks.html

Meanwhile Berlusconi's bunga bunga infamous case has new witnesses in the form of George Clooney & C. Ronaldo. Quite some celebs here... http://timesofindia.indi...rticleshow/10854764.cms

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#1822 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:32:35 PM
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ABS (Asset backed securities) to become a reality in KE. Oh dear Sad Now I understand the NSE name change & its new indices at global markets. Why would a bank want to lend more than it can cover? Why should they be permitted to run such a ponzi? These ABS & SPV blackhole products are the reason we're stuck in 2008 4yrs later...

http://www.businessdaily...84/-/g08hcj/-/index.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#1823 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:42:09 PM
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[quote=hisah]ABS (Asset backed securities) to become a reality in KE. Oh dear Sad Now I understand the NSE name change & its new indices at global markets. Why would a bank want to lend more than it can cover? Why should they be permitted to run such a ponzi? These ABS & SPV blackhole products are the reason we're stuck in 2008 4yrs later...

http://www.businessdaily...4/-/g08hcj/-/index.html[/quote]
U understand the game @hisah, infact we can both write a thesis on how things will unfold. Now, are U going to be in or out?
cnn
#1824 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2011 2:43:01 PM
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[quote=hisah]ABS (Asset backed securities) to become a reality in KE. Oh dear Sad Now I understand the NSE name change & its new indices at global markets. Why would a bank want to lend more than it can cover? Why should they be permitted to run such a ponzi? These ABS & SPV blackhole products are the reason we're stuck in 2008 4yrs later...

http://www.businessdaily...4/-/g08hcj/-/index.html[/quote]
@hisah,when i read that article,i could not believe somebody would want to introduce ABS here ,do they ever learn from events elsewhere or are they just out to rip off gullible Kenyans who would be sucked into buying into such.
hisah
#1825 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2011 3:06:48 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
[quote=hisah]ABS (Asset backed securities) to become a reality in KE. Oh dear Sad Now I understand the NSE name change & its new indices at global markets. Why would a bank want to lend more than it can cover? Why should they be permitted to run such a ponzi? These ABS & SPV blackhole products are the reason we're stuck in 2008 4yrs later...

http://www.businessdaily...4/-/g08hcj/-/index.html[/quote]
U understand the game @hisah, infact we can both write a thesis on how things will unfold. Now, are U going to be in or out?

Money got no morals. But this one I will not participate. I'll make sure all those close to me don't get sucked into this game...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#1826 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2011 8:59:01 PM
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hisah wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
[quote=hisah]ABS (Asset backed securities) to become a reality in KE. Oh dear Sad Now I understand the NSE name change & its new indices at global markets. Why would a bank want to lend more than it can cover? Why should they be permitted to run such a ponzi? These ABS & SPV blackhole products are the reason we're stuck in 2008 4yrs later...

http://www.businessdaily...4/-/g08hcj/-/index.html[/quote]
U understand the game @hisah, infact we can both write a thesis on how things will unfold. Now, are U going to be in or out?

Money got no morals. But this one I will not participate. I'll make sure all those close to me don't get sucked into this game...

Gracias smile
hisah
#1827 Posted : Friday, November 25, 2011 12:20:07 PM
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The LIBOR lie... http://www.bloomberg.com...ibility-in-markets.html

Boy, she got balls smile
http://en.beta.rian.ru/s...20111125/169019774.html

Hmmm... Of late controlled media in the west is reporting too much truth esp on matters economy. What's cooking...?
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#1828 Posted : Friday, November 25, 2011 1:55:22 PM
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Italian bonds (2yr & 10yr) are smoldering badly today... Market confidence is rattled going into the weekend. Euroland finance news over the weekend will be interesting...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#1829 Posted : Friday, November 25, 2011 4:10:38 PM
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And now a bankruptcy in Germany...

http://www.bloomberg.com...ermany-in-two-years.html
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Mainat
#1830 Posted : Friday, November 25, 2011 4:14:23 PM
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hisah wrote:
Italian bonds (2yr & 10yr) are smoldering badly today... Market confidence is rattled going into the weekend. Euroland finance news over the weekend will be interesting...

Means markets may force the germans to swallow a huge bit of hamburger or frankfurter and agree to the printing press by Sunday night when the Asia markets open...
Sehemu ndio nyumba
karanjakinuthia
#1831 Posted : Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:22:01 AM
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Tic toc, the countdown to civil unrest:

http://www.wjla.com/arti...ads-to-chaos-69575.html


"Let us begin with cycle analysis by Martin Armstrong. The 224 Year Cycle of Political Change in the United States peaked in 1637 with the revolution in England to end torture from the infamous Star Chamber. Adding 224 to 1637 brings us to 1861, the upheaval of the American Civil War.

The Cycle points to 2013 (1861+112+31.4+8.6) as beginning of political unrest in the United States feeding off the 8.6 year political down-cycle in Iran/Persia and Europe. Tremors are already being felt. Protests have begun in cash strapped Wisconsin, spreading to Ohio over budget cuts that will affect public workers...."

youcan'tstopusnow
#1832 Posted : Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:57:17 AM
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Should government pay off our debts?

Economist Steve Keen says we are already in another Great Depression. He advocates bankrupting the banks, nationalising the financial system and paying off people's debt

Steve Keen is one of the few economists to have predicted the global financial crisis and now he says we are already in a Great Depression. He says the way to escape it is to bankrupt the banks, nationalise the financial system and pay off people's debt.

He admits what he is advocating is radical but says it is time governments gave money to debtors to pay down debt instead of to creditors such as banks who have held onto it.

Watch him on BBC HardTalk

http://www.democraticund...&address=385x637731
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
hisah
#1833 Posted : Sunday, November 27, 2011 9:59:10 AM
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@Youcant - I need to meet this Steve guy. Very few people advocate for shutting down the bankster system, which I've always called for. If this system was a matter of life & death, then one would be born with a fist full of money.

@kk - quite interesting this from the Telegraph - http://www.telegraph.co....oreign-Office-warns.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#1834 Posted : Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:31:31 PM
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With TASE in red today means Asia opens on selling mode in a few hours. At this rate TASE is headed sub 1000 which it has tested in today's trading.

http://www.tase.co.il/TA...ction=1&IndexID=142
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#1835 Posted : Sunday, November 27, 2011 6:48:26 PM
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hisah wrote:

Keep watching...

Greece 1yr bond yield heading for triples - 300%. Absolute junk paper... Japan says it bought EFSF bonds recently. They must be smoking some serious weed. I need that?!



2yr bond yields... 100% smashed?!?



All is well, France & Germany got ya back euroland d'oh!

Add some Italy to make this bonds pasta tasty.

http://www.reuters.com/a...e-idUSTRE7A63QJ20111108

Update - And this is how I view this euroland train - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM-0Ywc7wNY



Stated on Nov 8 2011. Spectacular collapse this...
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youcan'tstopusnow
#1836 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 7:28:17 AM
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Is national credit rating being downgraded the in-thing now? Everybody seems to be getting it.

Hungary - http://www.finfacts.com/...s/article_1023566.shtml

Egypt - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15871107

Portugal - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15873435

The above 3 are now 'junk'

Belgium was cut by one notch from AA+ to AA - http://www.marketwatch.c...redit-rating-2011-11-25

Who's next?
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
hisah
#1837 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 4:24:46 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Is national credit rating being downgraded the in-thing now? Everybody seems to be getting it.

Hungary - http://www.finfacts.com/...s/article_1023566.shtml

Egypt - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15871107

Portugal - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15873435

The above 3 are now 'junk'

Belgium was cut by one notch from AA+ to AA - http://www.marketwatch.c...redit-rating-2011-11-25

Who's next?

One AAA rated nation in euroland. The other is US. But how do you bite the hand that feeds you? Thus the term ponzinomics...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#1838 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 4:30:51 PM
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Richard Koo's interview about a 'balance sheet recession' that euroland & US is currently facing. Even with near zero % interest rates, these economies are in dead water (liquidity trap). Japan got stuck for a decade plus trying to get out of mud. Interesting interview this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaNxAzLKegU
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Ceinz
#1839 Posted : Monday, November 28, 2011 7:57:19 PM
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Just like the collapse of the ERM, Deuscheland still has no motivation to save the Euro.
http://www.babypips.com/blogs/c...ost_of_currency_cur.html
“small step for man”
hisah
#1840 Posted : Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:04:32 AM
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Didn't see this one coming, but the Kuwaiti PM has resigned. ME region is in a serious boiler room. Bashar of Syria is a cat at this rate for surviving this long...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/new...ld-middle-east-15931526

@ceinz - I'm wondering who'll break the ECB just like Soros almost broke the BoE during the ERM crisis. But based on the scenario, I expect a major last ditch QE attempt in Q1 2012 by Fed, BoE and ECB. If it does happen, I'll buy gold/silver in bucketloads. I wonder how NSE will react to such an event. Since it's oversold, it could rally sharply in the short term e.g. 3 months esp bank stocks. But with the current cbk liquidity squeeze, it's hard to see the 6 - 12 months outlook.
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