wazua Wed, Apr 22, 2026
Welcome Guest Search | Active Topics | Log In

6 Pages«<456
Fuel prices
Impunity
#51 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:01:16 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
The problem is the briefcase oil firms.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

bwenyenye
#52 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:02:53 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 5/24/2007
Posts: 1,805
guru267 wrote:
bwenyenye wrote:
All said I think the systems biggest failure is NOCK. They actually do nothing to stabilize prizes despite being allowed to import 35% of the oil demand. Someone needs to remind that woman what the role of NOCK should be. It is being run like a private venture.


What exactly can NOCK do if crude is at $115?
What exactly can NOCK do if the kshs is averaging 100/$??

Check where these numbers were in 2010 and you'll see how squeezed OMC's are...

Do you want NOCK to operate at an unsustainable loss??
We should all get ready and prepared to pay 150/litre by Dec 2012..


@ Guru,

NOCK should have capacity to have indications of future oil trading prices and get contracts that allow for huge imports at stable prices. If they see the KES fluctuating, as it has, what has stopped them from hedging( KQ made quite some income from this last year) or keeping their reserves in foreign currency. They should be able to stabilize prices within every quarter. Right now, do you feel their effect on the market? Yet it is "OUR" money that has been used to set them up fro the very purpose of stabilizing oil prices and ensuring that the multinationals do not exploit us. we even went further to acquire alot of retail stations for them. Then mow the MD lady imagines we were doing it for profits. If they cannot do what they are supposed to do, then shut them down!
I Think Therefore I Am
Mkimwa
#53 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:37:22 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 10/26/2008
Posts: 380
bwenyenye wrote:

@ Guru,

NOCK should have capacity to have indications of future oil trading prices and get contracts that allow for huge imports at stable prices. If they see the KES fluctuating, as it has, what has stopped them from hedging( KQ made quite some income from this last year) or keeping their reserves in foreign currency. They should be able to stabilize prices within every quarter. Right now, do you feel their effect on the market? Yet it is "OUR" money that has been used to set them up fro the very purpose of stabilizing oil prices and ensuring that the multinationals do not exploit us. we even went further to acquire alot of retail stations for them. Then mow the MD lady imagines we were doing it for profits. If they cannot do what they are supposed to do, then shut them down!


If we could predict the future, we could make alot of money.
Reality: No one can predict what the price of OIL shall be, neither the currency rates - even for Dec 2012. People try while thinking on a macro scale, but usually mr. Market does not follow the fundamentals.

Therefore, telling NOCK to predict is being impractical.. can they hedge - probably. Its a two way sword - remember what happened to KQ when the prices of oil dropped to about $40 last year? I would like to see more practical solutions, rather than "NOCK should do better".

Be part of the solution, rather than point out where the problem is. We all know where the problem is - the "124.2" written at the petrol pump!
bwenyenye
#54 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:25:01 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 5/24/2007
Posts: 1,805
Mkimwa wrote:
bwenyenye wrote:

@ Guru,

NOCK should have capacity to have indications of future oil trading prices and get contracts that allow for huge imports at stable prices. If they see the KES fluctuating, as it has, what has stopped them from hedging( KQ made quite some income from this last year) or keeping their reserves in foreign currency. They should be able to stabilize prices within every quarter. Right now, do you feel their effect on the market? Yet it is "OUR" money that has been used to set them up fro the very purpose of stabilizing oil prices and ensuring that the multinationals do not exploit us. we even went further to acquire alot of retail stations for them. Then mow the MD lady imagines we were doing it for profits. If they cannot do what they are supposed to do, then shut them down!


If we could predict the future, we could make alot of money.
Reality: No one can predict what the price of OIL shall be, neither the currency rates - even for Dec 2012. People try while thinking on a macro scale, but usually mr. Market does not follow the fundamentals.

Therefore, telling NOCK to predict is being impractical.. can they hedge - probably. Its a two way sword - remember what happened to KQ when the prices of oil dropped to about $40 last year? I would like to see more practical solutions, rather than "NOCK should do better".
Some fellows are drawing a salary to do just that. It is our job to say when we are not satisfied and not to create solutions for them. Ifthey cannot think outside the box to stabilize prices like other countries have done, then they do not deserve to be there

Be part of the solution, rather than point out where the problem is. We all know where the problem is - the "124.2" written at the petrol pump!
To me the problem is not '124.2' at the pump but 100 today, 110 tomorrow, 95 the day after!!! We need stability (at whatever price)to plan.

I Think Therefore I Am
6 Pages«<456
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Copyright © 2026 Wazua.co.ke. All Rights Reserved.