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Rank: Member Joined: 12/15/2009 Posts: 142 Location: Nairobi
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madammary wrote:josiah33 wrote:Where exactly is block 136 in ruai embakasi ranch. i read in businessdaily sometimes back about a block 136 in ruai-embakasi ranch being Government land and i also wonder where exactly block 136 is. I don't know where block 136 is but i do know that a new sanitary landfill(read dumpsite) is proposed by Nairobi city council in Ruai location. An Environmental impact assessment has been done and the report can be downloaded from NEMA website. The location, according to the report, is between Nrb river and Embakasi Ranching unfortunately no site plan or clear map is included.However,one of the major conclusions of the report is that land ownership issue must be resolved before project commences though land is deemed owned by NCC(200 acres).Therefore there could be an issue with Embakasi ranching, my thoughts. UKITAFUTA UKABILA UTAKUFA BILA!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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You couldn't put it any better.... I was enticed to "good property investment opportunities" by a friend of mine but when i listened to the whole story, i developed cold feet instantly.... It could be genuine but i still do not mind missing out on the "opportunities".... This is one company that still leaves me wondering where people get the confidence to invest and re-invest in land the company is handling. You mention Embakasi Ranch and i will break my legs running away irrespective of how irresistible the deal may sound.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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shalishali wrote:madammary wrote:josiah33 wrote:Where exactly is block 136 in ruai embakasi ranch. i read in businessdaily sometimes back about a block 136 in ruai-embakasi ranch being Government land and i also wonder where exactly block 136 is. I don't know where block 136 is but i do know that a new sanitary landfill(read dumpsite) is proposed by Nairobi city council in Ruai location. An Environmental impact assessment has been done and the report can be downloaded from NEMA website. The location, according to the report, is between Nrb river and Embakasi Ranching unfortunately no site plan or clear map is included.However,one of the major conclusions of the report is that land ownership issue must be resolved before project commences though land is deemed owned by NCC(200 acres).Therefore there could be an issue with Embakasi ranching, my thoughts. does this imply that u believe block 136 could be this city council land?
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/15/2009 Posts: 142 Location: Nairobi
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josiah33 wrote:shalishali wrote:madammary wrote:josiah33 wrote:Where exactly is block 136 in ruai embakasi ranch. i read in businessdaily sometimes back about a block 136 in ruai-embakasi ranch being Government land and i also wonder where exactly block 136 is. I don't know where block 136 is but i do know that a new sanitary landfill(read dumpsite) is proposed by Nairobi city council in Ruai location. An Environmental impact assessment has been done and the report can be downloaded from NEMA website. The location, according to the report, is between Nrb river and Embakasi Ranching unfortunately no site plan or clear map is included.However,one of the major conclusions of the report is that land ownership issue must be resolved before project commences though land is deemed owned by NCC(200 acres).Therefore there could be an issue with Embakasi ranching, my thoughts. does this imply that u believe block 136 could be this city council land? @Josiah33, i really do not know where block 136 is ,so the proposed site could be far from this block, no map in the report to verify this. UKITAFUTA UKABILA UTAKUFA BILA!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,729
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I know some surveyor who managed to computerize all the nairobi and mombasa cadastral plans, am trying to see whether i can access that data and if i do i will be sure to give you guys the exact location of that block And by the way he used the same data to allocate himself a bypass land but when gava came calling he lost handsomely. More than 50m worth of his investment went to the drains Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2011 Posts: 368 Location: Nairobi
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I know someone with land on the said block 136. In fact, insiders say that block 136 is by far the largest piece of land owned by Embakasi Ranching. I was talking to someone and I understand it covers the area next to NCC Sewage works and all the way towards kilimambogo but starts about a kilometer from the main Ruai Junction as you go to the NCC sewage. But as you approach kamulu, it cuts the Kangundo Road and covers a potion of the upper side and from here both in the lower and upper sides, it borders Kamulu.
The issue was that the government acquired this land for Embakasi Ranching from Mkoloni (I do not know what this process was called) It is said that Embakasi Ranching Company Ltd was supposed to pay back the government but never paid. I would not be surprised and especially because Embakasi Ranching has been run by Politicians since 1976...or earlier (not sure about the year.)
Someone said that a few people have titles on the block but I am not sure.
As a student Accountant many years ago, I remember reading through audited reports of Embakasi Ranching Company Ltd. For many years, the Auditor issued a qualified report. If I can remember well, there were issues to do with some titles not presented to the auditor and also the issue of NCC rates.
I spoke to someone who was confident that even if that was the case, the investments were too huge for the government to chase away people. The syokimau issue should be an eye opener.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Posts: 175
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freiks wrote:I know some surveyor who managed to computerize all the nairobi and mombasa cadastral plans, am trying to see whether i can access that data and if i do i will be sure to give you guys the exact location of that block And by the way he used the same data to allocate himself a bypass land but when gava came calling he lost handsomely. More than 50m worth of his investment went to the drains and he is an MPig, phew The 50 million investment was pocket change he was able to build confidence to potential buyers and hike the plot prices being upmarket area. Some you win some you lose
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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tassia wrote:I know someone with land on the said block 136. In fact, insiders say that block 136 is by far the largest piece of land owned by Embakasi Ranching. I was talking to someone and I understand it covers the area next to NCC Sewage works and all the way towards kilimambogo but starts about a kilometer from the main Ruai Junction as you go to the NCC sewage. But as you approach kamulu, it cuts the Kangundo Road and covers a potion of the upper side and from here both in the lower and upper sides, it borders Kamulu.
The issue was that the government acquired this land for Embakasi Ranching from Mkoloni (I do not know what this process was called) It is said that Embakasi Ranching Company Ltd was supposed to pay back the government but never paid. I would not be surprised and especially because Embakasi Ranching has been run by Politicians since 1976...or earlier (not sure about the year.)
Someone said that a few people have titles on the block but I am not sure.
As a student Accountant many years ago, I remember reading through audited reports of Embakasi Ranching Company Ltd. For many years, the Auditor issued a qualified report. If I can remember well, there were issues to do with some titles not presented to the auditor and also the issue of NCC rates.
I spoke to someone who was confident that even if that was the case, the investments were too huge for the government to chase away people. The syokimau issue should be an eye opener. does it cover all the lower area before the ruai junction?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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tassia wrote:I know someone with land on the said block 136. In fact, insiders say that block 136 is by far the largest piece of land owned by Embakasi Ranching. I was talking to someone and I understand it covers the area next to NCC Sewage works and all the way towards kilimambogo but starts about a kilometer from the main Ruai Junction as you go to the NCC sewage. But as you approach kamulu, it cuts the Kangundo Road and covers a potion of the upper side and from here both in the lower and upper sides, it borders Kamulu.
The issue was that the government acquired this land for Embakasi Ranching from Mkoloni (I do not know what this process was called) It is said that Embakasi Ranching Company Ltd was supposed to pay back the government but never paid. I would not be surprised and especially because Embakasi Ranching has been run by Politicians since 1976...or earlier (not sure about the year.)
Someone said that a few people have titles on the block but I am not sure.
As a student Accountant many years ago, I remember reading through audited reports of Embakasi Ranching Company Ltd. For many years, the Auditor issued a qualified report. If I can remember well, there were issues to do with some titles not presented to the auditor and also the issue of NCC rates.
I spoke to someone who was confident that even if that was the case, the investments were too huge for the government to chase away people. The syokimau issue should be an eye opener. does it cover all the lower area before the ruai junction?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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If block 136 is really Government land then there's not much hope of people owning plots on the said block getting titles. Given that it's the largest parcel in embakasi ranch then majority of the plot owners will never get title deeds and there is the threat of a syokimau there too. How on earth would the ranching company go on and subdivide land they have not paid for and therefore do not possess a title for and why would the Government just watch as people put their money in the drain?
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/23/2011 Posts: 175 Location: Nairobi
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majimaji wrote: @ Madammary, please name names. It can save people from being swindled around the Sewage plant.
i don't know the guys who are selling land their but they are telling the people buying that they have authority from Orengo. am not sure if all this are all lies they are feeding people to dupe them.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/12/2011 Posts: 108
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madammary wrote:majimaji wrote: @ Madammary, please name names. It can save people from being swindled around the Sewage plant.
i don't know the guys who are selling land their but they are telling the people buying that they have authority from Orengo. am not sure if all this are all lies they are feeding people to dupe them. If the authority to sell is from an individual - then you should shy away from such land deals. There should be formal process that is independent of office holder! What happens when the individual is out of office??
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/23/2011 Posts: 175 Location: Nairobi
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Ndaragwa wrote:madammary wrote:majimaji wrote: @ Madammary, please name names. It can save people from being swindled around the Sewage plant.
i don't know the guys who are selling land their but they are telling the people buying that they have authority from Orengo. am not sure if all this are all lies they are feeding people to dupe them. If the authority to sell is from an individual - then you should shy away from such land deals. There should be formal process that is independent of office holder! What happens when the individual is out of office?? i just wonder what will happen too.
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Rank: User Joined: 11/1/2006 Posts: 24
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majimaji wrote:
@ Madammary, please name names. It can save people from being swindled around the Sewage plant.
i don't know the guys who are selling land their but they are telling the people buying that they have authority from Orengo. am not sure if all this are all lies they are feeding people to dupe them. goog observation
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Rank: User Joined: 11/1/2006 Posts: 24
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madammary wrote:Ndaragwa wrote:madammary wrote:majimaji wrote: @ Madammary, please name names. It can save people from being swindled around the Sewage plant.
i don't know the guys who are selling land their but they are telling the people buying that they have authority from Orengo. am not sure if all this are all lies they are feeding people to dupe them. If the authority to sell is from an individual - then you should shy away from such land deals. There should be formal process that is independent of office holder! What happens when the individual is out of office?? i just wonder what will happen too. kikoll
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Rank: Hello Joined: 9/28/2011 Posts: 5 Location: Nairobi
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shonagal wrote:There is a kamzee there who's name is Mwangi Thuita who thinks Embakasi ranch is his personal property and the mother title(s)belongs to him. To him the shareholders do not deserve individual titles and they live in houses built in their plots at his own mercy. They have no real claims to the plots they've built in, as what they have are share certificates, which Mwangi Thuita seems to think are not proof that a certain plot with a certain plot number as indicated in the certificate belongs to a shareholder. A share just mean you could be allocated a plot anywhere after your plot has been given to someone else(double, triple allocation etc). He also believes that once you've bought land in Ruai you should guard it the way you would guard a rice paddy against birds eating the rice or put some structure to stake your claim and show that you really own the land. He is the Chairman and this are some of his qualifications: 1.Former Stooge and Sycophant of the late Muhuri Muchiri(Former Embakasi MP). 2.Illiterate 3.Self appointed Kikuyu elder. 4. Small time Mafioso ....AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE. Why is the government sitting an waiting for this thing called Embakasi Ranching to explode?? I think this will be worse than Mbo-i-kamiti, there shall be bloodshed in Embakasi soon. Embakasi Ranching Company and the land it owns remains one of independent Kenya’s most explosive property crises in the past three decades. Embakasi Ranching Kenya’s most explosive property crises in the past three decades .
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/8/2008 Posts: 288
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Is Embakasi Ranching Company still conning people? I have seen this discussion here for years and from the reviews they look terrible.. Someone told me he is buying their land in Ruai I was in shock...I felt like its pata potea...like throwing money away... I warned him but he didn't seem keen to listen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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Jitahidi wrote:Is Embakasi Ranching Company still conning people? I have seen this discussion here for years and from the reviews they look terrible.. Someone told me he is buying their land in Ruai I was in shock...I felt like its pata potea...like throwing money away... I warned him but he didn't seem keen to listen I would not accept FREE LAND ruai..and I repeat repeat Free!!!!!!!!!! I almost bought thin air and learnt a lesson. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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What's really happening in Ruai right now with regard to the ongoing shareholder verification and issuance of leases to plot owners? Is it a repeat of the ownership verification done last year or is it confirmation of plot owners on the list with the Lands office for those to be issued with leases? There is still talk of plot owners coughing up Ksh.20,000 per plot as charges for site visit. I thought that was over when the verification process was done last year. Anyone on the know?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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I really regret being in association with Embakasi Ranching Company even if indirectly.
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