@adidas, look for a KAA map showing the second runway.

If the Ministry of Land was automated would we be having all these nightmares?
I couldn't help but laugh at the minister suggesting that we should do our searches by post how does that work anyway and for heavens sake its 2011 and I don't even know how much stamps costs!!
If the guy wants volunteers we can volunteer to help automate that ministry because it sucks to have a search done for more than a month and at the end of the day he still flips it on you and tell you its a fake.
We need people who will offer solutions in that ministry not people who just run their mouth and are ever in defense mode.

Have seen the information below regarding the syokimau land on another forum and it sheds some more light on the issue. And I quote:

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Spent the whole day at survey of kenya digging
for original maps to aid in getting compensations for those who lost their properties. What we have
managed to get are 3maps. A 1997 one with a
very straight line..the demolished houses were not within KAA land at first. Then we have a 1999 map with a dotted curved part extending outward. The outward extension is marked 'as flight path
indenture.' this part originally belonged to
Syokimau Farm ltd. It was consolidated with the
existing KAA land and given and map sub f.r
number (not to be confused with lr). Somehow, this curved alteration in the map never made it to the final production at survey. The third map is same as the 2nd one only that the curve is now subdivided into smaller plots.
From my own judgement, some chaps at KAA and survey altered the map before it got to Production. So instead of the curve remaining as a single parcel registered in
the name of KAA, it is numerous smaller plots.

The next step was for these chaps to get deed plans for the smaller plots. This is also done at survey. In land ownership, u must must first have a deed plan or mutation before you apply for title.

The funny thing with the disputed plots is that some were registered under Registered Land Act (cap 300) while others under Registration of Titles Act (cap 281).. Acquisition of titles under cap 281 is processed at nairobi central registry while cap 300 is majorly done at the local district.

That inconsistency should have raised the first red flag. It did not.

When orengo said in parliament that the
title deeds are forgeries, he lied. Each of those titles
have a file either at nairobi central registry or
machakos district. Now, it is from these files that a
search is carried out. Until 2009, there were 3 forms of searches: postal, official and personal.
Lets focus on the latter two. When doing an official search, the property owner will never know much historical info abt the property. In most cases, what you are gvn are the current owner, size, encumbrances etc. However, a personal search gvs u all the available info since you are allowed to personally inspect the file. It was stopped in 2009 for good reasons.

Now lets go back to the deed plans. Getting a title takes abt 1 month if u have a deed plan. In early 2001, KAA realized that some people had started building on this land. They dismissed it as the kawaida squatters. However, KAA soon found out that these settlers had
titles..and each title had a file at the relevant
registries. The ownership by the settlers was now
legal though illegitimate!
who paid for the subdivisions of the curve?
who were the registered owners before they were sold to the innocent third parties?
why did banks give
mortgages despite a KAA caveat emptor of 2004?
how did Orengo fail the innocent buyers?
in 48 hours i'l gv my opinion.[QUOTE]

[quote=jaggernaut]Have seen the information below regarding the syokimau land on another forum and it sheds some more light on the issue. And I quote:



Thanks... that's very useful infor. Please C&P his opinion when he gives it if he hasnt done so already.

Somebody please share Utawala side of the Airport map too.

I also have some interest there too...

The airport area is fenced but Im now not too sure if they will one day wake up and extend the boundary.

The certificate I have was issued in 1993 to one owner.In 2009 , the original owner transferred it to the person I bought the plot from last year.
I have the two transfer letters and the company I dealt with doesn't seem to have issues of double allocations .I was thinking of building some rental houses there after my 420 2 bedroom in syokimau but with the new developments I'm getting jittery.

Please help.

As for the Ksh 420,000 2 bedroom house in syokimau ,I will still proceed .Only that I do not intent to put up anything too expensive.

@ Chemos At least this can shed some light, these are the documents Orengo should produce to help unravel the issue instead of ranting up and down..

The gazette notice says 3.937 acres yet when I measured the demolished area it is 4km by 2km approx 4,000 acres.

could there be other gazette notices ?

NKT!!!!!!!!!! ati sasa there is an injuction to stop further demolition???? .......But dozers worked overnight on sunday completing the assignment..... we gettng F&*$^^^# here :amp; -&

and it seems there was compensation to the owners from the goverment. This issue has a paper trail a mile long..before all the facts are laid bare watu watajua vile mashamba zinakulwa na mabwenyenye..

4000 acres is approximately 16 sq kms.I think we need to be told clearly of the limits of this 'flight path'now..

Boss, That is how we make money. You work hard. We create laws that steal from you. And yes, then sell it back to you for more... and the cycle continues till there is a revolution. We are not about to let that happen!