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CORRUPTION @ KIKUYU COUNTY COUNCIL
mkenyan
#21 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:19:00 AM
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money maker,did it ever occur to you that the fact that other buildings around have balconies could simply mean that they paid a bribe or used their mps to have the same allowed. i have tried bringing that to your good attention but you either ignore it or do not get it. assuming it is the latter,let me be more simpler - if i drive a car without side mirrors i should not be saying that it is okay to do that and legal because three other vehicles in front of me do not have side mirrors. now if a traffic policeman was to stop those vehicles and allow them to proceed (after paying a bribe) and then when you are stopped i see you saying that the fact that those other vehicles have been allowed to proceed show that it is okay to drive without side mirrors.

so based on the post you initially posted,and still do,you do not give us a good reason to believe that balconies are ok'ed by kikuyu county council in that area where you were building. and fyi there are different building restrictions on/by different areas/local authorities. so if a plan has been allowed in say kitengela you do not expect it to be allowed by other local authorities in their areas. may be other local authority engineers are also just incompetent for all we know.

and the same engineer who approved the other buildings with the balconies probably approved them with THE BALCONIES because the owners corrupted him either by bribe or using someone in authority,and not because balconies were allowed.

now you can continue bringing in new issues to supplement your story but for a guy who was asked to change his plans 3 times (for all we know these changes were merited) and uses the presence of other buildings with balconies to justify his,you really should re-look at your behaviour in this affair because it is typical of most kenyans.

by typical i mean,that we are fast to scream corruption and accuse other of the same but not examine our own actions.

and mwenza is right,when you use someone in authority to influence say a public official towards a certain action (in your case the refusal to approve unmerited plans by a local authority engineer) then it is indeed corruption. money need not change hands.

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XSK
#22 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 4:50:35 PM
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Joined: 12/8/2009
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Location: Nairobi
money maker wrote:
I am so dissapointed with the Kikuyu County Council for the grand corruption that is going on. I have a plan for building flats in the county that has been waiting for approval for over 6 months.The worst thing is that the plan has already been approved by Kiambu county and the only thing remaining is approval from Kikuyu county. I have been to Kikuyu over 10 timesto see the same guy.He keeps giving me the run a rounds.I have taken the Guy to the site twice. He has asked for changes to my plan 3 times .He even asked me to remove the balcony's yet the bulding next door has plenty of Balconies

.Finally he asked me for a bribe..I told him i will never give him a dime . I would rather not build than give that guy a penny. I refuse to give this guy the satisfaction of winning.I know am the one losing but someone has to put an end to this mayhem.If its not Mungiki its the civil cervants.


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@Money maker

I hope you have now built your flat. I wonder how many times did the town council send its representative to check your building? Those guys at KTC are not angels i have dealt with them even more recently (Aug 2011)! The story is the same.
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Theu
#23 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 9:40:52 PM
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Joined: 6/18/2008
Posts: 353
Sad Sad That guy is very corrupt. Sad thing is that he has the final word. He seems to have a god father for he has been there for ages. I know a lady who submitted drawings for approval after doing change of user and fulfilling all the requirements. He delayed the approval and kept telling the lady to check tomorrow. Afetr some time he told the lady she can start building for her plans are ok and its the town clerk who is yet to sign only for the guy to threaten demolition saying citing some strange rules. He demanded 50k! The lady was ready to stay put but without her approved drawings she didnt have legal grounds. she parted with 20k. Something ought to be done!
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