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World's most hated airport-Kenya #6
McReggae
#21 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 11:16:14 AM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
McReggae wrote:
nostoppingthis wrote:
McReggae wrote:
otienosmall wrote:
Yenyewe JKA has to do something, it’s down kiasi; like you get into a duty free shop and realize it’s just like the mama mboga's kiosk in the estate. Worse still there are some extremely greedy ladies at the baggage-check-in desk who try as hard as possible to look for an excuse to charge your luggage I suspect they even give you a wrong weight reading so that you bribe them


Are you sure....eti they you to bribe them, you mean the KQ ladies, I beg to differ, hii ni kama umepigiwa tu story boss!!!


@McDoba, i think he means the KAA ama KRA persons...


@notstop......KAA has nothing to do with baggage weight and charging of the same!!!


@McD, officially yes, last time I was there, they were hovering around as hao watu wa KRA went through my bag...


......so they charge you if the weight of your bag is above what.....It is not KAA who is flying you yawa????
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youcan'tstopusnow
#22 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 11:30:42 AM
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Kratos wrote:

No whitewash here. JKIA sucks, a lot. Getting out of JKIA, by plane or road is like escaping hell. Sucks even more, that while the authorities here are strict about security which is a very good thing, its an airport that stinks. I'm Kenyan, and I hate to write this, but garbage is garbage. A couple of thousand kilometers up north is Bole, in Addis Ababa, which is a far better airport. JKIA has frequent blackouts, staff is rude, majority of the time i get in, the staff are always on gossip mode, and unprofessional (I always get asked why I am flying into Kenya. Duh!!! I live there), I genuinely avoid the bathrooms, which, when they don't stink of waste stink of acrid chemicals but recently someone had the sense to sort that out, or maybe it was a one off, Duty Free sucks big time, no sockets to plug in, and when you find one, always broken, everything that has to do with waiting is overpriced, during the hot season, sitting in the waiting room is a nightmare. And this is just what I remember off the top of my head. There is way too much room (and finances) to improve it, just have lousy lazy people.
It is still far better than the old Harare airport, where security guards used to cook on stoves in the departure lounge at one point, and everyone had the fear that they would get robbed, 10 years ago.

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#23 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 12:10:41 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Kratos wrote:

No whitewash here. JKIA sucks, a lot. Getting out of JKIA, by plane or road is like escaping hell. Sucks even more, that while the authorities here are strict about security which is a very good thing, its an airport that stinks. I'm Kenyan, and I hate to write this, but garbage is garbage. A couple of thousand kilometers up north is Bole, in Addis Ababa, which is a far better airport. JKIA has frequent blackouts, staff is rude, majority of the time i get in, the staff are always on gossip mode, and unprofessional (I always get asked why I am flying into Kenya. Duh!!! I live there), I genuinely avoid the bathrooms, which, when they don't stink of waste stink of acrid chemicals but recently someone had the sense to sort that out, or maybe it was a one off, Duty Free sucks big time, no sockets to plug in, and when you find one, always broken, everything that has to do with waiting is overpriced, during the hot season, sitting in the waiting room is a nightmare. And this is just what I remember off the top of my head. There is way too much room (and finances) to improve it, just have lousy lazy people.
It is still far better than the old Harare airport, where security guards used to cook on stoves in the departure lounge at one point, and everyone had the fear that they would get robbed, 10 years ago.

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@youcan'tstopusnow...you have just converted one of the most innocent statements into sodom and gomorrah!!!

You need re-wiring
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eboomerang
#24 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 12:32:28 PM
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Ngogoyo
#25 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 1:00:08 PM
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I just cant understand-is it too much to ask for KAA to upgrade their washrooms! they just stink. Egal airport in Hargeisa is waaaay better in this
otienosmall
#26 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 1:02:42 PM
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McReggae wrote:
nostoppingthis wrote:
McReggae wrote:
nostoppingthis wrote:
McReggae wrote:
otienosmall wrote:
Yenyewe JKA has to do something, it’s down kiasi; like you get into a duty free shop and realize it’s just like the mama mboga's kiosk in the estate. Worse still there are some extremely greedy ladies at the baggage-check-in desk who try as hard as possible to look for an excuse to charge your luggage I suspect they even give you a wrong weight reading so that you bribe them


Are you sure....eti they you to bribe them, you mean the KQ ladies, I beg to differ, hii ni kama umepigiwa tu story boss!!!


@McDoba, i think he means the KAA ama KRA persons...


@notstop......KAA has nothing to do with baggage weight and charging of the same!!!


@McD, officially yes, last time I was there, they were hovering around as hao watu wa KRA went through my bag...


......so they charge you if the weight of your bag is above what.....It is not KAA who is flying you yawa????


Well I don’t know which side they are suppose to belong but fact is they will try to ‘illegally’ squeeze something out of you in the pretext that your weight is above what is reflected on your airline ticket. I think these are airport staff and do not belong to the airline you are travelling with. I am talking from a bitter experience. Assume you’re allowed a check in luggage of 23kg by the airline and 7kg as hand luggage, in total the luggage allowed is thus 30kg. I once presented a check in luggage of 28kg and zero hand luggage at JKA and was charged for the ‘extra’ 5kg. The figure quoted in dollars was astronomically high; however I was advised to put a certain negotiated amount in my passport and hand it over. They capitalize on ones' naivety because in essence your allowed weight should be the total of check in and hand luggage.
Kratos
#27 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 1:52:48 PM
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I have never seen a situation where your luggage is weighed by KAA or KRA/Customs for that matter. What i know for sure is that the check-in staff for the company that is flying you will do that since they have to compute the total weight of passengers and luggage on the aeroplane and charge excess fees. On the other hand KAA and Customs guys will inspect for contraband and goods you need to declare in your luggage on landing so there is nothing like paying for weight related issues.

Good article @ eboomerang

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eboomerang
#28 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 2:06:56 PM
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Ngogoyo wrote:
I just cant understand-is it too much to ask for KAA to upgrade their washrooms! they just stink. Egal airport in Hargeisa is waaaay better in this

Irrespective of how you look at it, the whole thing is just a mess. Currently, the fact that it does hold up some operations is by chance and not design.

Then the next thing we hear are talks of a railway line connecting to the airport. While these are all good ideas, one wonders why they cannot first solve the big problems that require simple solutions and are feasible within our lifetime.
eboomerang
#29 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 2:10:08 PM
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Kratos wrote:
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Good article @ eboomerang

Thanks, spread the word and hopefully it will get to the right people.
otienosmall
#30 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 2:20:06 PM
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Kratos wrote:
I have never seen a situation where your luggage is weighed by KAA or KRA/Customs for that matter. What i know for sure is that the check-in staff for the company that is flying you will do that since they have to compute the total weight of passengers and luggage on the aeroplane and charge excess fees. On the other hand KAA and Customs guys will inspect for contraband and goods you need to declare in your luggage on landing so there is nothing like paying for weight related issues.

Good article @ eboomerang


..the weight issue is on departure and of course KRA/Customs is not involved. The first entry point when you are departing is weight check….if you are travelling by Qatar air for instance it’s not the Qataris who will do that, it’s some airport’s desk staff
Intelligentsia
#31 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 2:28:26 PM
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The one airport I detest is the one that updates its FB status this way: 'I have just started 'seeing the moon' today

then 9 guys LIKE the status, while 12 guys comment: THANK GOD!

Now thats one heck of a busy airport!
mwenza
#32 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 2:37:42 PM
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Believe it or not, one of the ladies who man(or is it woman?)the scanners requested for "lunch" from me at Moi International Airport, Msa last wednesday........I guess these are the people who give JKIA/KQ a bad name.
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#33 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 4:26:52 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
The one airport I detest is the one that updates its FB status this way: 'I have just started 'seeing the moon' today

then 9 guys LIKE the status, while 12 guys comment: THANK GOD!

Now thats one heck of a busy airport!


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McReggae
#34 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 4:40:36 PM
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Kratos wrote:
I have never seen a situation where your luggage is weighed by KAA or KRA/Customs for that matter. What i know for sure is that the check-in staff for the company that is flying you will do that since they have to compute the total weight of passengers and luggage on the aeroplane and charge excess fees. On the other hand KAA and Customs guys will inspect for contraband and goods you need to declare in your luggage on landing so there is nothing like paying for weight related issues.

Good article @ eboomerang


Fact this one: You cant combine hand luggage is hand luggage and check in luggage is check in luggage, you can't blame KAA for any weight issue, that is a fact......KAA only inspects the contents of your bag!!!
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Mo
#35 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 6:41:58 PM
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My observation with JKIA is plain and simple, disorganized! whay do I say so
1. We don't have to que to do baggage security screen at the entrance, just take the dumb baggage go screen it on your own. Airports that handle HUGE traffic do it that way and even smaller airports like Kotoka with considerable traffic handle it the same way.
2. Too much greed - why should we have a squeezed waiting bay because duty free shops have taken all the space? and all they sell is similar stuff/ alcohol, tobacco and sovenirs? doesn't make sense. Schipol which is my idea airport has sections for similar kind of stuff tucked in same corner.
3. Corruption- speed up the additional terminal building works, that way you attract more big carriers coz you have additional security in that in coming and out going passangers never meet. Delta won't be here any time soon with the current model.
4. Maintainance - what's the immigration area supposed to be? you embark and find yourself in a dark coloured archaic hall similar to a cast in WW2 movies. What impression are we giving first time visitors, can you also fix the toilets or at a minuimum clean them and have some additional sockets on the wall?
That having been said we aren't doing bad compared to Muhamed Murtala and Doula airports.
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#36 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 10:05:02 PM
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Dubai is very discramanitive they have no time for 'others ' infact you board KQ in their gheto . Kualupar is ok . Bankong is fair . New Delhi and Mumbai Whatever what you Call them they stink unanusa sewage when uko kwa airbus . The pilots are true bhai . Landing now don't vory no beer but Lutti . Nairob is home .fresh air warm smile etc .
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butterflyke
#37 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 10:08:34 PM
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@eboomerang, nice article.

any news on who won the tender? hope it is not a company based in 'jersey'
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eboomerang
#38 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 11:12:56 PM
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butterflyke wrote:
@eboomerang, nice article.

any news on who won the tender? hope it is not a company based in 'jersey'

Thanks!

Lol...I also hope that Jersey is not an imaginary country. I'd never heard of it before the scandals:)

No clue who won the tender either, these stories just disappear in Kenya.
youcan'tstopusnow
#39 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 11:21:43 PM
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smano wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Kratos wrote:

No whitewash here. JKIA sucks, a lot. Getting out of JKIA, by plane or road is like escaping hell. Sucks even more, that while the authorities here are strict about security which is a very good thing, its an airport that stinks. I'm Kenyan, and I hate to write this, but garbage is garbage. A couple of thousand kilometers up north is Bole, in Addis Ababa, which is a far better airport. JKIA has frequent blackouts, staff is rude, majority of the time i get in, the staff are always on gossip mode, and unprofessional (I always get asked why I am flying into Kenya. Duh!!! I live there), I genuinely avoid the bathrooms, which, when they don't stink of waste stink of acrid chemicals but recently someone had the sense to sort that out, or maybe it was a one off, Duty Free sucks big time, no sockets to plug in, and when you find one, always broken, everything that has to do with waiting is overpriced, during the hot season, sitting in the waiting room is a nightmare. And this is just what I remember off the top of my head. There is way too much room (and finances) to improve it, just have lousy lazy people.
It is still far better than the old Harare airport, where security guards used to cook on stoves in the departure lounge at one point, and everyone had the fear that they would get robbed, 10 years ago.

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@youcan'tstopusnow...you have just converted one of the most innocent statements into sodom and gomorrah!!!

You need re-wiring


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Rollout
#40 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 11:49:56 PM
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... I think JKIA is not that bad, I hate the parking situation, otherwise alot of Kenyans just stink so I expect the airport to stink too (both airports). I think the government should handout deodorants.... maybe make salary deductions and send everyone with a job a deodorant as part of the pay and then drop some in every corner of a street. I hate the smell of sweats......
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