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Rank: Member Joined: 10/23/2007 Posts: 604
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Fellow Kenyans fear not if ye believes in the Most High God.
With God, no drug baron can touch you.
Psalm 91
He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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Thiong'o wrote:http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Police+investigating+media+drug+claims+/-/1056/1269920/-/npim13/-/index.html
How can the police investigate themselves? Indeed the ones who handled the drug case have either been promoted or burried. "Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/9/2007 Posts: 420 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/13/2008 Posts: 558
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@ Wendz Sorry if you are offended by my statement, but dont be too emotional about it. It is a true story yes, Journalists did a good job, yes. However "they reported what they could get" (According to the Sitting A. Minister of Incharge of National Security) You can analyse OJODE's statement to the NATIONAL ASSEMBLEY and relate to what i was trying to imply. http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/npim13/-/index.html
Kenya iko na wenyewe. "A commitee has been formed to investigate the media reports" The story continues,....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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Moha & Onsarigo are still in the country,although onsarigo said in his last tweet that he was heading to somalia..I think he is covering the Linda inchi operation story...a friend of mine also told me he usually sees Moha in a local mosque. check out a tweet onsarigo tweeted on monday when pple started saying they were out of the country Quote: @Donsarigo Haha! We are so in Kenya guys.!! In my opinion I think the story's input was mainly by the police themselves some of the details can only be accessed by a police man....then even those who were mentioned were so insignificant in the police force today, most of them retired or on posts that have no power. Look at how Iteere story was never exhausted or the PCIO,PPO were never revealed.out of 70 police officer only 8 were mentioned. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 63
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Lolest! wrote:Jaina wrote:SERIKALI = SILI KALI.
Kenyans, please don't get all too emotinal on things "sirikali".
Thats why sometimes its better for the citizenly NOT to be informed about the goings on in Govt.
Am not in any way condoning druglords, neither am i saying that the police do their job deligently. But learn NOT to get too much emotional when it comes to matters "Govt".
Dennis and Mohammed are just doing their Jobs. Preparing a nice sellable story. My bet is that thats just that. A story. Nothing will change unless the "system changes".
Accept it and move on to better your life, the best way you know how.
A friend of mine tells me the same. That the system of govt all over the world is corrupt. If you fish enough, you will get stressed up by the amount of chafu you will encounter! Then why was i disturbed last night by the class seven boy in Mombasa's comment.His words kept on replaying in my sleep ...Mungu awaone ,Mungu Awaone!!!! Lemme tell you ladies and gentlem.We might not find Justice in our systems but we shall surely find one from above because our God is a God of Justice,no more no less.Think of a Kiswahili saying that goes Maskini Wa Mungu.....God is their Advocate.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,468
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selah wrote:Moha & Onsarigo are still in the country,although onsarigo said in his last tweet that he was heading to somalia..I think he is covering the Linda inchi operation story...a friend of mine also told me he usually sees Moha in a local mosque. That wouldn't be a very smart move. The drug barons would easily finish him off there and blame it on Al Shabaab. He can even be "kidnapped" first to make the whole thing look authentic. Having said that, I don't think they would go for Onsarigo first. Everyone knows the brains behind this stories is Moha. Onsarigo and Namu before him, basically do the English version but I believe the investigative journalist here is Moha!!! Moha is more at risk. Onsarigo is at risk also because of what he knows and the fact he was present when the witnesses narrated their stories but the main target still remains as Moha!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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Jaina wrote:@ Wendz Sorry if you are offended by my statement, but dont be too emotional about it. It is a true story yes, Journalists did a good job, yes. However "they reported what they could get" (According to the Sitting A. Minister of Incharge of National Security) You can analyse OJODE's statement to the NATIONAL ASSEMBLEY and relate to what i was trying to imply. http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/npim13/-/index.html
Kenya iko na wenyewe. "A commitee has been formed to investigate the media reports" The story continues,.... Its not easy to trigger emotions from me.... and am usually pretty objective so do not apologise. I only responded to what you said that it was a story. Just a story.... what i intended to bring out was that if it is true that it is just a story to sell, then it really made such a good story... however, behind this particular story, there seems to be alot of truth in it.... I always wonder how poorly trained our police force is that they cant investigate the least of the cases but this story is an eye opener.... could be that the diligent ones are being stopped in their tracks by their own..... just thinking.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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selah wrote:In my opinion I think the story's input was mainly by the police themselves some of the details can only be accessed by a police man....then even those who were mentioned were so insignificant in the police force today, most of them retired or on posts that have no power. Did we watch the same story??? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,468
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I agree with @Wendz and disagree with everyone else who says we should just keep quiet and move on. Governments world over have been brought down by people's power - unarmed citizens tired with the status quo who put their foot down and say enough is enough. If everyone in Kenya had kept quiet as some are advocating, Moi could still be in power, Biwott could probably be the minister in charge of internal security, Kamlesh might have made it to minister of finance (after being appointed as an MP) etc. etc. People talked, marched, shouted etc. Some were killed, detained, maimed etc. but we got where we are. If people got to the streets to protest against protection of drug cartels by the government, use of state machinery to eliminate those who are against the trade etc, western media would jump on the story like nobody's business. If this was accompanied by investigative pieces like the one done by Moha and crew, then heads would start to roll. Western governments would start asking questions, assets/bank accounts of some high and mighty would be frozen, travel bans would be imposed etc. Politicians/leaders being who they are would drop the drug barons like hot potatoes and even sacrifice some of them to get back into good books or to simply get back access to their ill gotten wealth. It would not take a day, a month or even an year but believe you me, this is how it would play out. More or less. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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MaichBlack wrote:I agree with @Wendz and disagree with everyone else who says we should just keep quiet and move on. Governments world over have been brought down by people's power - unarmed citizens tired with the status quo who put their foot down and say enough is enough.
If everyone in Kenya had kept quiet as some are advocating, Moi could still be in power, Biwott could probably be the minister in charge of internal security, Kamlesh might have made it to minister of finance (after being appointed as an MP) etc. etc. People talked, marched, shouted etc. Some were killed, detained, maimed etc. but we got where we are.
If people got to the streets to protest against protection of drug cartels by the government, use of state machinery to eliminate those who are against the trade etc, western media would jump on the story like nobody's business. If this was accompanied by investigative pieces like the one done by Moha and crew, then heads would start to roll. Western governments would start asking questions, assets/bank accounts of some high and mighty would be frozen, travel bans would be imposed etc. Politicians/leaders being who they are would drop the drug barons like hot potatoes and even sacrifice some of them to get back into good books or to simply get back access to their ill gotten wealth. It would not take a day, a month or even an year but believe you me, this is how it would play out. More or less. hear hear!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/14/2011 Posts: 661
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Mainat wrote:What is the difference between the m01 and the general's error? The difference should be same
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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@Thiong'o, do you expect conclusive investigation by this committee!!? especially that the power wielders are adversely "mentioned"...akina Moha know who the pro-PNU ministers, assistant ministers et al are...and also in light of Wambui's daughter hanging out with the 2 brothers.... I wait to see that report, now that it wasn't mentioned who is in the committee and a timeframe for the final report.... and I still think akina Moha have more evidence...just waiting for government objection to these allegations...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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McReggae wrote:selah wrote:In my opinion I think the story's input was mainly by the police themselves some of the details can only be accessed by a police man....then even those who were mentioned were so insignificant in the police force today, most of them retired or on posts that have no power. Did we watch the same story??? You want to tell me the CID guy who was transferred to the Nairobi area was acting alone..why not mention the guy who he was answerable to. The mombasa fly squad officers who were they answerable to..if I can rememember correctly Kingori Mwangi was the police boss then incharge of Coast province how come nothing was reported about him? '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,468
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McReggae wrote:selah wrote:In my opinion I think the story's input was mainly by the police themselves some of the details can only be accessed by a police man....then even those who were mentioned were so insignificant in the police force today, most of them retired or on posts that have no power. Did we watch the same story??? One wonders!!! This story touched the nerve center of the government, implicating the high and mighty! It even implicated one "PNU/political activist" and her daughter. I need to recheck the meaning of "insignificant". Were the Artur brothers [members of the Russian mafia] given top ranks [Deputy police commissioners? I forget.] in the police by "insignificant police officers". This thing can bring down the government if thoroughly investigated! Very Senior people would end up in jail or get a date with the hangman! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,468
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selah wrote:You want to tell me the CID guy who was transferred to the Nairobi area was acting alone..why not mention the guy who he was answerable to.
The mombasa fly squad officers who were they answerable to..if I can rememember correctly Kingori Mwangi was the police boss then incharge of Coast province how come nothing was reported about him? That is what a PROPER INVESTIGATION would help unearth. If the powers that be had any interest in getting to the bottom of this, they have MORE THAN ENOUGH information to get started. All this characters better hope there is never a revolution in Kenya. If the government ends up in the hands of the "wrong person" - a fellow with absolutely no ties to current and past "leaders" and power brokers - kuna watu watalilia chooni. I can only imagine a situation where we have an untainted president who decides to get to the bottom of past corruption, injustices etc., compiles all the available evidence, constitutes independent bodies headed by the Mohas and Githongos of this world.... I hope I live to see that day!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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You are missing the big picture Murungaru is no longer the internal security minister so how does the Drug barons survive? Mwadime I think is retired, The DC who oversaw Chemorei execution is still working but not in a powerful position,Iteere is the only suspect who can tell us the truth as he was promoted to police commissioner...The story just made a passing remark in regards to Iteere as in he had one Key to the safe house. What the story did is divert us from the real culprits who are running the Biznez and concentrate too much on guys who are already behind bars. The 'first family' were mentioned when it came to the Artur brothers which is public knowledge. I Think this story was just half baked and as I said earlier the police might be fighting their proxy war that has been brewing since those AP in mombasa got killed. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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C'mon people do you really expect the govt to investigate itself? Do you think they'll call on Moha to assist in the investigations. We heard all about the Artur brothers and a commission of inquiry was formed to investigate, we all know how it ended.
In 2002 we were united against the Mo1 regime but now whenever there's a scandal its usually PNU Vs ODM. How many times have we heard this kind of statements..
“It is not something that can be concluded tomorrow. Let the police do their job. By the time we have evidence, we’ll arrest the culprits and take them to court,” said Mr Ojode. “We’re not going to leave anyone who does anything that is contrary to our Constitution and our laws; we’ll arrest you.”
“There’s no need of an apology right now, because we don’t know what the final report will carry. It is not possible for me to apologise. We apologise to who, and for what?” Mr Ojode posed.
We have a new constitution....next year we have another chance to vote out corrupt leaders and change govt systems. If we don't do that then we'll be coming here tunapiga kelele for a week then tunaendelea na maisha. For now i can only pray for the families of the people who were allegedly executed to protect drug cartels
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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Too much pressure here , si mtapandwa na sukari. Relaxini. Next time vote the right guys .You are reaping what you sow. 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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