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Rank: Hello Joined: 11/5/2011 Posts: 5
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Speaking of bottom.
Were@ rock bottom anyways! Theres no where else to go but up.
East Africa is the last frontier guys.. were still doing 5-6% growth despite all the problems, corruption, mafia, poverty, inflation, etc....
Well managed companies are still making money and expanding.
Example: Serena purchase of Movenpick Hotel Dar es Salaam or DTB expansion to 100 branches..
Yes short term fluctuations will be there but I dont really see much more bleeding from here.
Investors and Fund Managers are picking up shares under are noses in large lots over the last 2 years in well managed companies..
Its only a matter of time before investors realize there much safer on this side of the world then US/Eurozone.
You guys talk of election violence.. BUT, how much money have businessmen/politicians made in land price and stock market in the last 4-5 years... Do you really think its in there best interest to let violence erupt?
Even if there is violence I think it will be short lived and contained by police and army as wealthy businessmen have to much to lose of violence goes out of control. IF it occurs which I dont think it will, it will be a short term effect on the country and economy as everyone knows they have to much to lose because of it!
Look@ the big picture guys and leave those silly historical charts! Think of it like a businessman/woman,, 2-5 years from now its going to be positive in my opinion!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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@dj i agree with you...na safari ya kesho hupangwa leo.. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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I like this guy @DJ already! Welcome. We need more of ur objectivity around here!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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@Dj, nice one there! Atleast @Cde has now gotten a companion, a fellow optimist, which is good for the markets.  However, pessimists are also good as they make available stocks for purchase. @Dj, the charts are good for traders(who create liquidiaty) and can't be done away with, although i think you are speaking to Investors here, and not traders! @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438
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Dj Junior wrote:Speaking of bottom.
Were@ rock bottom anyways! Theres no where else to go but up.
East Africa is the last frontier guys.. were still doing 5-6% growth despite all the problems, corruption, mafia, poverty, inflation, etc....
Well managed companies are still making money and expanding.
Example: Serena purchase of Movenpick Hotel Dar es Salaam or DTB expansion to 100 branches..
Yes short term fluctuations will be there but I dont really see much more bleeding from here.
Investors and Fund Managers are picking up shares under are noses in large lots over the last 2 years in well managed companies..
Its only a matter of time before investors realize there much safer on this side of the world then US/Eurozone.
You guys talk of election violence.. BUT, how much money have businessmen/politicians made in land price and stock market in the last 4-5 years... Do you really think its in there best interest to let violence erupt?
Even if there is violence I think it will be short lived and contained by police and army as wealthy businessmen have to much to lose of violence goes out of control. IF it occurs which I dont think it will, it will be a short term effect on the country and economy as everyone knows they have to much to lose because of it!
Look@ the big picture guys and leave those silly historical charts! Think of it like a businessman/woman,, 2-5 years from now its going to be positive in my opinion!
WELL "SPOKEN" - BUT CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM IS WHAT IS REQUIRED IN THIS MARKET. WE CAN STILL GO DOWN SOME MORE, BUT THAT IS BETTER FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE LOOKING FOR BARGAIN BASEMENT PRICES.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/29/2011 Posts: 1,045 Location: Mtaani
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Is there a market hitch?its 10am no data flow. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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mlennyma wrote:Is there a market hitch?its 10am no data flow. Yeah whats not happening??? The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Who is at nation center?any police around??soko chini...al sababu! "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: User Joined: 8/29/2011 Posts: 1,045 Location: Mtaani
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haiya richlive is blank ???
is the bottom near ...lol
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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QW25081985 wrote:haiya richlive is blank ???
is the bottom near ...lol The answer to this question is to be found in post no.5 of this Great thread! @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:[quote=fabricey]To help African investors navigate the due diligence process of African companies, Alterio Research has recently launched its Alterio Fundamental Index Series (AFI Series) that tracks the performance of African stocks based upon fundamental factors such as Return On Equity (ROE), Dividend and Free Cash Flow rather than market cap. The first index to be released is the AFI Kenya and other country-specific indexes will follow soon. The latest AFI Kenya Weekly Review is available at http://tinyurl.com/785j7yh[/quote] Seeing that a Canadian based org.having a report on Seedco Zim adds them a lot of marks in my books  keep it up! If one is to discuss Africa and its oppurtunities, then let it be wholesale! Anybody with this analysis report for Seedco Zim? the site requires one to log in but if i could get it without registering, i'd be happy to avoid the mail that comes with such registration. I have some vested interests in this company so it will help.... Any member? Please share.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:@Hisah, maybe a could add some............
4) When the market is forced to open late or
close early because of a "technical error in
the ATS"
- This happened in Jan 2009!
5) When brokers take it upon themselves to call
their clients/emailing them buy proposals of
some specific stocks and urging them to take
the plunge citing IT'S TIME TO BUY!
6) When a day passes and not a single thread or
post has been made here in Wazua!
7) When u visit the brokers office and you are
the only client.
- I saw this in Oct 2008 and Mar 2009 when the
index sank to 3,300 and 2,300 respectively!
could this be it???!!! The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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Aguytrying wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:@Hisah, maybe a could add some............
4) When the market is forced to open late or
close early because of a "technical error in
the ATS"
- This happened in Jan 2009!
5) When brokers take it upon themselves to call
their clients/emailing them buy proposals of
some specific stocks and urging them to take
the plunge citing IT'S TIME TO BUY!
6) When a day passes and not a single thread or
post has been made here in Wazua!
7) When u visit the brokers office and you are
the only client.
- I saw this in Oct 2008 and Mar 2009 when the
index sank to 3,300 and 2,300 respectively!
could this be it???!!! We still have this from hisah, especially number 3: 1. When all the media both print and TV don't bother reporting anything on the business news. 2. When media & wanjiku concentrate on the bearish bluechips especially KQ, Safcom, Equity and EABL. 3. When politics hits fever pitch. GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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Aguytrying wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:@Hisah, maybe a could add some............
4) When the market is forced to open late or
close early because of a "technical error in
the ATS"
- This happened in Jan 2009!
5) When brokers take it upon themselves to call
their clients/emailing them buy proposals of
some specific stocks and urging them to take
the plunge citing IT'S TIME TO BUY!
6) When a day passes and not a single thread or
post has been made here in Wazua!
7) When u visit the brokers office and you are
the only client.
- I saw this in Oct 2008 and Mar 2009 when the
index sank to 3,300 and 2,300 respectively!
could this be it???!!! Yap, you are spot on. It's 3.36PM and the market is still on! @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:Aguytrying wrote:Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:@Hisah, maybe a could add some............
4) When the market is forced to open late or
close early because of a "technical error in
the ATS"
- This happened in Jan 2009!
5) When brokers take it upon themselves to call
their clients/emailing them buy proposals of
some specific stocks and urging them to take
the plunge citing IT'S TIME TO BUY!
6) When a day passes and not a single thread or
post has been made here in Wazua!
7) When u visit the brokers office and you are
the only client.
- I saw this in Oct 2008 and Mar 2009 when the
index sank to 3,300 and 2,300 respectively!
could this be it???!!! We still have this from hisah, especially number 3: 1. When all the media both print and TV don't bother reporting anything on the business news. 2. When media & wanjiku concentrate on the bearish bluechips especially KQ, Safcom, Equity and EABL. 3. When politics hits fever pitch. @youcan't, no.3 is jus a nightmare! @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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hisah wrote:Ok... Which is more likely, a bank run in KE or a bank run in Greece or euroland... Hmmm... If you are talking about a 'big' bank failure, I would go for the latter Small bank failures, however, happen all the time. A small bank collapsing in Kenya is of course not in the realm of absurdity. But like women, the ones with the biggest assets get all the attention US Bank failures: 2006 - 0 2007 - 3 2008 - 25 2009 - 140 2010 - 157 *Original thread moved to 'Club SK' GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: User Joined: 8/29/2011 Posts: 1,045 Location: Mtaani
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:hisah wrote:Ok... Which is more likely, a bank run in KE or a bank run in Greece or euroland... Hmmm... If you are talking about a 'big' bank failure, I would go for the latter Small bank failures, however, happen all the time. A small bank collapsing in Kenya is of course not in the realm of absurdity. But like women, the ones with the biggest assets get all the attention US Bank failures: 2006 - 0 2007 - 3 2008 - 25 2009 - 140 2010 - 157 *Original thread moved to 'Club SK' 
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