@ All

To put this thread in perspective,let the employers point out the qualities of a good/bad/worst employee and let the employees who then determine which of these make the employer a good/bad/worst of the employers.

May I take the liberty of going into fiction and give the example of CTU and Jack Bauer? (Please humour me). CTU has the primary objective of fighting terrorism. It has been given a set of protocols by its supervisory organization,Division which answers to Homeland Security and is judged by these protocols.

However,Mr. Bauer often breaks these protocols which stand in the way of the primary objective but ends up stoping the terrorist(s),also at a great expense to his personal life.

In this regard,is CTU a good employer of Mr. Bauer or is it the worst? Is Mr. Bauer,who accomplishes the primary objective of CTU,but breaks the protocols,a good employee or the worst employee at CTU?

Just a thought. Just a thought.


Live hard,die hard.

My employer is best!

I pretend to work and he pretends to pay me!!!

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@eamathenge;
nisamehee; i din't to copy your comment......Friday morning blues!!

@Fundaah;
Do you work only to impress your employer?

I am currently self-employed,but even when I was in formal employment,I was being paid to do something that I would have willingly done for free; nay,I would have paid for being given the opportunity to do!!!

And even what I do today is something that I would do for free. Thus after completing an assignment,you wont find me chasing clients all over town the following day for the cheque!!

Completion of the job is enough reward for me.....payment is only to foot my personal bills

Is it enough for you,or do you need another kind of motivation?

Behind the gardens...Behind the wall...Under the tree (Including: Red...Dark Blue...Yellow)

@ aemathenge

I passed the first interview.

The second interview,I was given a craw bar,told to remove those mbaos used to support storied buildings. Two floors.

I barely passed that one but I did.

Then there was a third interview……..

In the meantime,I was put on probation which comprised of working 6 days a week,7am-6pm.

My starting salary was 6250 bob



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@jaribu;
You mean Gitahi gets such a tiny salary?

How much does a reporter earn and how much does a reporter deserve?

Is a bad employer the one who pays the smaller salary?

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@kamaa

Me?

I am no fundi,have never done anything fundish. It was a clerk job when I was in colle and we had gone on strike and I needed to get some cash.

I am in the PR industry


I am Not Him,I am in No Way related to Him,I am related to Jesus though

@Mukiha,there is absolutely nothing to forgive. I have derived 'copy that' from Jack Bauer which he uses to agree or acknowledge the truth of a certain piece of information.

We also seem to be reading from the same page in that most posts are about people complaining how bad employers are while they are actually an employer's worst human resource nightmare.

@ All,inorder for an employer to be the 'worst' you must be a 'good' employee. Define the qualities of a good employee and a bad employee. Define the qualities of a good employer and the worst. Then we can make a judgement here.

My penny thoughts.


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@ mukiha

I hear Njoroge Mwaura gets 180k and akina swale mdoe get 400k,that is why all these guys run to citizen ... about this small pay .... I don't know

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@ McReggae

Thanks. This is a forward I was sent about the market prices,you can check out the part of Njoroge Mwaura,though it stands corrected

Dyer and blair's entry level is...hold ur breathe....10k!

Insurance companies like UAP,ICEA,First Assurance,Britak pay 25k for entry
level graduates


entry levels for Banks vary broadly...28k to 50k+... (graduate clerks).



I have it from a very reliable source that audit trainees at Deloitte get
62k,at KPMG they get 55k,while they get 70k at PwC. Management trainees
get 35k and 30k at BBK and Stanchart respectively!


Ernst & young has the highest start pay for fresh fraduates,above 70k.

Citibank pays 50k for graduates and 80k for mgt trainees.





Bamburi has to be the highest payer of fresh graduates for their management
trainee program...a whopin 120k!!!





Safaricom pays between 55K-65K for either entry level engineers (called
technicians at that point) or graduate management engineers read MTs.


Ericsson,min. 100K for engineers,could be more if you had a previous
employer offering more than that.


Gibb Africa (consultancy).......46K lakini kuna pesa ya PJs.......jobs za
nje!!!


KPLC now offers 72K for fresh engineers.......you are always free na kuna
overtime mob....gava kinda thing you know.


KenGen....80K for MTs,Nokia 80K with allowances kibao,alcatel,upwards of
75K and don't forget the allowances


NB: Above are purely Engineering jobs.




I am aware that KTN pays poorly. You need to just look at the way their
presenters dress and you have an idea!
the likes of Muli,Namu,Mbugua and Arunga on 95k plus benefits.

Apparently Njoroge Mwaura is the highest paid at about 180k plus benefits.
I understand that Lilian Muli is on much less than that


I've got a source at the firm auditing Royal Media saying ati Louis,
Kasavuli and Swaleh are on 400k plus benefits including rent,motor
vehicle maintenance and entertainment.

When we pray in praise to God,he makes a difference in our lives.

@ McReggae. OK,then I guess it was done by you,someone copy pasted it along with others,compiled it,sent it to a friend of mine,my friend forwarded it to her friends and .... it became a forward

When we pray in praise to God,he makes a difference in our lives.