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Questioning the validity of Church!?
otienosmall
#41 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:42:04 AM
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This sounds credible but it goes against scientific facts.

The galaxies where these aliens came from then must have lifeforms.These galaxies must be under the same physical conditions as planet Earth for life to exist.Since the universe began at the same instant.It is unlikely these aliens evolved faster than the rest of species on Earth to come and colonise them.

If there are aliens they must be from beyond this Universe(not necessarily governed by time and Space).



@youcan'tstopnow,


The article answers most of the allegations:
However I will add:


1.25th Date is not in the bible.
2.It cannot be known how many kings came to visit Jesus.The visitors only brought three gifts.[/quote]

The universe did not begin at the same time; there are probably more than 170 billion galaxies in the observable universe. Typical galaxies range from dwarfs with as few as ten million stars, up to giants with a hundred trillion stars, all orbiting the galaxy's center of mass. Galaxies may contain many star systems, star clusters, and various interstellar clouds. The Sun is one of the stars in the Milky Way galaxy; the Solar System includes the Earth and all the other objects that orbit the Sun. NASA's has lately discovered 16 extra solar planet candidates orbiting a variety of distant stars in the central region of our Milky Way galaxy. Those other galaxies also have planetary bodies. The age of the Earth is said to be 4.54 billion years. The oldest galaxy is however over 13 billion years old thought to have formed just 480 million years after the Big Bang. NASA posted the discovery of this old galaxy on January 25, 2011; meaning Earth civilization is still struggling to discover what else is out there.
Caramba
#42 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:41:18 PM
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Mr.Wambui wrote:
"When a great mind is taught science and philosophy he has to search for a God; when a small mind is bombarded with science and philosophy, he becomes an atheist!"
There's been so many religions and religious literature, the BIBLE has stood the test of time and it's even baked by secular history.
CHRIST is the way and the only truth that sets us free.


Mr Wambui, you are christian by default, so am i. Had you been born in Saudia (Where all other religions are forbidden), you would be Muslim, again by default. Had you been born in Japan,China or some remote Pacific islands, i can guarantee you would not be making the above statement.
It is a fact that our religion is largely determined by our parents/immediate society thru indoctrination/brainwashing from childhood. Religion has been the cause of many conflicts on this earth.
I must add however, that the church has played some positive role in society, just like some social clubs/organizations would.
Caramba
#43 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:50:55 PM
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Nabwire wrote:
Is that the Physicist who claimed to be Atheist but right before his death recanted and claimed that God does exist in some dimension? God is real.



Nabwire, Richard Dawkins is still very much alive!!Shame on you
Caramba
#44 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:15:21 PM
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otienosmall wrote:
What if the modern man was created by another civilized race out there in the galaxy probably via genetic engineering or other techniques that we are yet to discover!. Note that the extent to which the galaxies extends is mind boggling. Archaeological finds, the Sumerian’ Artifacts and the Anunnakis highly depicts a possibility of a higher intelligence that predates the current man. The design of the pyramids of Egypt and probably the bible could have been the works of that intelligence. Pyramids similar to those in Egypt have been discovered lately in other places like China, Iraq etc. Ancient Gold mines in the Middle East, South Africa and other places indicate that that intelligent being mined precious metals on Earth long before the current civilization…..A weird thought that man was engineered as a slave tool for those guys….
http://67.159.223.63/sumerians.html
http://www.abovetopsecre.../forum/thread659393/pg1


Mr. Oti, couldn't agree with you more!!

In the bible, there's plenty of evidence of these beings that created man in their own image. Their flying crafts are also mentioned a number of times, but from the primitive perspective of early man who thought that they were divine:

Genesis 28:12 describes these beings ascending a ladder to their craft.
Exodus 3:2 Moses could not fathom that those were the lights of a flying craft that illuminated the trees but did not burn.
Ezekiel 1:4-26 Ezekiel describes a flying craft and the beings wearing protective clothing and helmets.

There are many others.Thing is many of the miracles described in the bible can be explained scientifically.




YesuWangu
#45 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:16:16 PM
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
YesuWangu
#46 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:40:30 PM
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Caramba wrote:
otienosmall wrote:
What if the modern man was created by another civilized race out there in the galaxy probably via genetic engineering or other techniques that we are yet to discover!. Note that the extent to which the galaxies extends is mind boggling. Archaeological finds, the Sumerian’ Artifacts and the Anunnakis highly depicts a possibility of a higher intelligence that predates the current man. The design of the pyramids of Egypt and probably the bible could have been the works of that intelligence. Pyramids similar to those in Egypt have been discovered lately in other places like China, Iraq etc. Ancient Gold mines in the Middle East, South Africa and other places indicate that that intelligent being mined precious metals on Earth long before the current civilization…..A weird thought that man was engineered as a slave tool for those guys….
http://67.159.223.63/sumerians.html
http://www.abovetopsecre.../forum/thread659393/pg1


Mr. Oti, couldn't agree with you more!!

In the bible, there's plenty of evidence of these beings that created man in their own image. Their flying crafts are also mentioned a number of times, but from the primitive perspective of early man who thought that they were divine:

Genesis 28:12 describes these beings ascending a ladder to their craft.
Exodus 3:2 Moses could not fathom that those were the lights of a flying craft that illuminated the trees but did not burn.
Ezekiel 1:4-26 Ezekiel describes a flying craft and the beings wearing protective clothing and helmets.

There are many others.Thing is many of the miracles described in the bible can be explained scientifically.






I burst out in laughter when I read this. This should be in the Just for laughs...corner thread....lol.

otienosmall
#47 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 5:13:21 PM
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Caramba wrote:
otienosmall wrote:



Mr. Oti, couldn't agree with you more!!

In the bible, there's plenty of evidence of these beings that created man in their own image. Their flying crafts are also mentioned a number of times, but from the primitive perspective of early man who thought that they were divine:

Genesis 28:12 describes these beings ascending a ladder to their craft.
Exodus 3:2 Moses could not fathom that those were the lights of a flying craft that illuminated the trees but did not burn.
Ezekiel 1:4-26 Ezekiel describes a flying craft and the beings wearing protective clothing and helmets.

There are many others.Thing is many of the miracles described in the bible can be explained scientifically.






….hilarious ‘the flying saucer illuminated a bush’ and poor Moses thought its on fire yet not getting consumed…a very likely scenariosmile
youcan'tstopusnow
#48 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:42:30 PM
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Caramba wrote:
Mr.Wambui wrote:
"When a great mind is taught science and philosophy he has to search for a God; when a small mind is bombarded with science and philosophy, he becomes an atheist!"
There's been so many religions and religious literature, the BIBLE has stood the test of time and it's even baked by secular history.
CHRIST is the way and the only truth that sets us free.


Mr Wambui, you are christian by default, so am i. Had you been born in Saudia (Where all other religions are forbidden), you would be Muslim, again by default. Had you been born in Japan,China or some remote Pacific islands, i can guarantee you would not be making the above statement.
It is a fact that our religion is largely determined by our parents/immediate society thru indoctrination/brainwashing from childhood. Religion has been the cause of many conflicts on this earth.
I must add however, that the church has played some positive role in society, just like some social clubs/organizations would.


Applause Truth be told!Applause
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
masukuma
#49 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:29:57 PM
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I believe in God, the Father almighty,
Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried;
he descended into hell;
on the third day he rose again from the dead;
he ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty;
from there he will come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy universal Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting. Amen

that's my story and I am sticking to it.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#50 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:36:52 PM
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otienosmall wrote:
Caramba wrote:
otienosmall wrote:



Mr. Oti, couldn't agree with you more!!

In the bible, there's plenty of evidence of these beings that created man in their own image. Their flying crafts are also mentioned a number of times, but from the primitive perspective of early man who thought that they were divine:

Genesis 28:12 describes these beings ascending a ladder to their craft.
Exodus 3:2 Moses could not fathom that those were the lights of a flying craft that illuminated the trees but did not burn.
Ezekiel 1:4-26 Ezekiel describes a flying craft and the beings wearing protective clothing and helmets.

There are many others.Thing is many of the miracles described in the bible can be explained scientifically.






….hilarious ‘the flying saucer illuminated a bush’ and poor Moses thought its on fire yet not getting consumed…a very likely scenariosmile

the reason man searches for God is because he recognizes the void he has in him. Life is really pointless without purpose. Without God or a purpose you are insignificant, you are an accident by birth, a survivor through life and at death..no better than a dog that strives to eat for the day and when it gets knocked down by a bus its story ends there - insignificant!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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