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Questioning the validity of Church!?
Lolest!
#21 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2011 7:50:43 PM
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BTW, has science explained magic? Like that guy who could turn an object without touching it and even bend a metallic object without touching it? I always refer to the story of Achiba Bakari, some excorcist at the coast. Upon being arrested, he fell into a coma and no matter how much PGH medics tried the guy lay lifeless until another excorcist was involved and brought him back. The spiritual definitely exists and it is not based on death but on the supreme being
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Rollout
#22 Posted : Friday, October 28, 2011 10:39:24 PM
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@Lolest,
I have heard of things like that but everytime it is a story about something that happen in another part of the country and the story is always narrated by a third party, I have never met anyone who have seen these stuff, everytime is my cuzo said or my friend from that part said, give me someone who has experience these spirits!
youcan'tstopusnow
#23 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2011 1:52:24 AM
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Location: Black Africa
The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins is an excellent book. Pick it up if you can
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Nabwire
#24 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2011 9:18:20 AM
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Is that the Physicist who claimed to be Atheist but right before his death recanted and claimed that God does exist in some dimension? God is real.
kiterunner
#25 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2011 11:07:08 PM
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Location: Nairobi
I am a christian of sorts because missionaries settled in my ancestors' neighbourhood about a century ago. My 'sect' of christianity believes that its are a special people. For a long time my impression of christianity was we all are passing by earth on the way to heaven to live forever (and sinners wil burn in hell)

While Christian missionaries were subjugating Africans, Indian subjects of the British Empire 'escaped' missionary conversion during the Elizabethan reign, not because their gods were stronger than african gods but because India was the jewel of the Empire and Queen Elizabeth could not afford to lose it in ensuing religious riots so she directed that christian missionaries be restricted to cities where there was a presence of 'white masters'. The result is an Indian population which largely retained their many faiths and Hinduism as we know it today and an African population that is 'wailing more than the bereaved' .

Personally I do not believe that my denomination is special as my pastor would want me to believe, and I find it hard to imagine there is life after death. The idea of taking any single religion as the 'true' one will make all others 'false'. For this reason I think any religious rhetoric should be taken with a huge grain of salt.


Having said that, I have not renounced my faith. I believe religion has a big part to play in our society and is part of our collective culture as human beings.
our goals are best achieved indirectly
Lolest!
#26 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2011 6:20:23 PM
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Rollout wrote:
@Lolest,
I have heard of things like that but everytime it is a story about something that happen in another part of the country and the story is always narrated by a third party, I have never met anyone who have seen these stuff, everytime is my cuzo said or my friend from that part said, give me someone who has experience these spirits!

Watched it on K24. It was live. Saw the spoon spinning as the guy moved his hand over it. He would then make some gestures on the fork and this would twist it! Sometime back a pastor called me and prayed for me over an issue that I had never shared with anyone. The spiritual definitely exists
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Rollout
#27 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2011 4:08:37 PM
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@Lolest
I move spoons too but that is physics, the pastor called you? Pretty smart, but guess what? pastors pray for general things, like you've problem God want me to pray for you..... or something is paining you in your body...., you don't have to be genious to guess those right, do you?
Thiong'o
#28 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2011 4:42:16 PM
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Psalm 14:1
New International Version (NIV)

Psalm 14
For the director of music. Of David.
1 The fool[a] says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.

Footnotes:
a. Psalm 14:1 The Hebrew words rendered fool in Psalms denote one who is morally deficient. Pray
Engo
#29 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2011 4:44:58 PM
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Timoth 3:2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, 4treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. 6For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, 7always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the faith. 9But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, just as Jannes’s and Jambres’s folly was also.
Lolest!
#30 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2011 6:02:47 PM
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Rollout wrote:
@Lolest
I move spoons too but that is physics, the pastor called you? Pretty smart, but guess what? pastors pray for general things, like you've problem God want me to pray for you..... or something is paining you in your body...., you don't have to be genious to guess those right, do you?

You move cutlery without touching it? You twist it too? How do you explain this using Physics?

I must have missed a Seco class on magnetismSad

On the pastor praying for me:that was too specific, not guesswork. Not you are ailing somewhere...

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