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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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Drunkard wrote:As long as it is not PHD in organizational development, business administration, operation management, sociology, go for it.
I am surprise Mpenzi has an opinion! 10k
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Rank: User Joined: 8/29/2011 Posts: 1,045 Location: Mtaani
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What kind of shitty question is this ????? Its like asking if education is worth it ???? lets move to the next one
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/29/2011 Posts: 233
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Drunkard wrote:As long as it is not PHD in organizational development, business administration, operation management, sociology, go for it.
I am surprise Mpenzi has an opinion! 10K... Excelsior
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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http://www.ku.ac.ke/imag...rsity_Fee_Structure.pdf
Compared to what such a program costs in the diaspora, these prices are too good to pass up. In addition there are time limits, so with diligent work, at least you have an idea of how long you'll be in the program: "The Doctorate degree in all Schools shall extend over a period of at least three (3) years from the date of registration for a candidate studying full-time. Part-time candidates shall be registered for a minimum of four (4) years, except that under special cases the Graduate School may recommend to Senate that the candidate may submit the thesis after three (3) years. No candidate for Ph.D degree shall be registered as a full-time student for more than four years or a part-time student for more than six (6) years. Maximum period of study may be extended for no longer than nine (9) months and twelve (12) months for full-time and part-time Ph.D candidates respectively, unless under special circumstances." Best, Hill
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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PhDs are great! if you have the time and motivation and passion for the field - go for it! its not for getting a job...its about stretching yourself, doing exploits, contributing to society. lets face it, going through a PhD program (intellectually) puts you ahead of everyone - its a feeling money cannot buy...the person who buys a Phd Knows he bought it...but the one who earned it...knows he earned it! Its plainly excellence. I equate academic excellence to other forms of excellence that no one can take from you (including yourself), excellence in sports, excellence in oration and making a tonne of money legally and with integrity - its very satisfying (remember the only one person you need to convince that you have what it takes is - you) All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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jasonhill wrote:http://www.ku.ac.ke/images/stories/docs/kenyattta_University_Fee_Structure.pdf
Compared to what such a program costs in the diaspora, these prices are too good to pass up.
In addition there are time limits, so with diligent work, at least you have an idea of how long you'll be in the program:
"The Doctorate degree in all Schools shall extend over a period of at least three (3) years from the date of registration for a candidate studying full-time. Part-time candidates shall be registered for a minimum of four (4) years, except that under special cases the Graduate School may recommend to Senate that the candidate may submit the thesis after three (3) years.
No candidate for Ph.D degree shall be registered as a full-time student for more than four years or a part-time student for more than six (6) years.
Maximum period of study may be extended for no longer than nine (9) months and twelve (12) months for full-time and part-time Ph.D candidates respectively, unless under special circumstances."
Best,
Hill diaspora ni wapi? Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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mukiha wrote:
diaspora ni wapi?
hakuna kwa atlas
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 9/9/2011 Posts: 32 Location: Nairobi
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mukiha wrote:jasonhill wrote:http://www.ku.ac.ke/images/stories/docs/kenyattta_University_Fee_Structure.pdf
Compared to what such a program costs in the diaspora, these prices are too good to pass up.
In addition there are time limits, so with diligent work, at least you have an idea of how long you'll be in the program:
"The Doctorate degree in all Schools shall extend over a period of at least three (3) years from the date of registration for a candidate studying full-time. Part-time candidates shall be registered for a minimum of four (4) years, except that under special cases the Graduate School may recommend to Senate that the candidate may submit the thesis after three (3) years.
No candidate for Ph.D degree shall be registered as a full-time student for more than four years or a part-time student for more than six (6) years.
Maximum period of study may be extended for no longer than nine (9) months and twelve (12) months for full-time and part-time Ph.D candidates respectively, unless under special circumstances."
Best,
Hill diaspora ni wapi?
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/18/2008 Posts: 377
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@ Mukiha, Namanga could pass as diaspora "You've never lived until you've almost died; for those who have fought for it, life has a flavour the protected will never know."
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/18/2008 Posts: 377
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@ Jason, thanks for the link; straight forward. Deliberating on taking up PHD after what am doing at the moment. "You've never lived until you've almost died; for those who have fought for it, life has a flavour the protected will never know."
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Rank: User Joined: 5/3/2011 Posts: 559
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jasonhill wrote:http://www.ku.ac.ke/images/stories/docs/kenyattta_University_Fee_Structure.pdf
Compared to what such a program costs in the diaspora, these prices are too good to pass up.
In addition there are time limits, so with diligent work, at least you have an idea of how long you'll be in the program:
"The Doctorate degree in all Schools shall extend over a period of at least three (3) years from the date of registration for a candidate studying full-time. Part-time candidates shall be registered for a minimum of four (4) years, except that under special cases the Graduate School may recommend to Senate that the candidate may submit the thesis after three (3) years.
No candidate for Ph.D degree shall be registered as a full-time student for more than four years or a part-time student for more than six (6) years.
Maximum period of study may be extended for no longer than nine (9) months and twelve (12) months for full-time and part-time Ph.D candidates respectively, unless under special circumstances."
Best,
Hill What I know is PHD is free in USA schools, state universities phd students get scholarships, 100% for most if not all of them, most of top 100 school offers both scholarship and monthly salary called stipend.... so when you talk about phd being expensive in diaspora, I don't know what you mean!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,468
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luttz wrote:@ Mukiha, Namanga could pass as diaspora You have a point there. Someone pointed out that Jason Hill is the first one to know which fuel station has run out of fuel, which road is impassable due to an accident that has just happened, when city council goons are chasing hawkers or demolishing stalls and yet he claims to be in the "diaspora". I guess therefore, Kangemi also qualifies to be "diaspora"! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Mlevi is a dubious character, but so is Mlima.
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MaichBlack wrote:luttz wrote:@ Mukiha, Namanga could pass as diaspora You have a point there. Someone pointed out that Jason Hill is the first one to know which fuel station has run out of fuel, which road is impassable due to an accident that has just happened, when city council goons are chasing hawkers or demolishing stalls and yet he claims to be in the "diaspora". I guess therefore, Kangemi also qualifies to be "diaspora"! Jason Hill is not only in diaspora but also he is not a Kenyan, he is African America living in America, you got to respect Jason intelligence, I don't know how many other countries he knows and keep track of like Kenya, he has mention a number streets in Thika and names of place before.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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Drunkard wrote:jasonhill wrote:http://www.ku.ac.ke/images/stories/docs/kenyattta_University_Fee_Structure.pdf
Compared to what such a program costs in the diaspora, these prices are too good to pass up.
In addition there are time limits, so with diligent work, at least you have an idea of how long you'll be in the program:
"The Doctorate degree in all Schools shall extend over a period of at least three (3) years from the date of registration for a candidate studying full-time. Part-time candidates shall be registered for a minimum of four (4) years, except that under special cases the Graduate School may recommend to Senate that the candidate may submit the thesis after three (3) years.
No candidate for Ph.D degree shall be registered as a full-time student for more than four years or a part-time student for more than six (6) years.
Maximum period of study may be extended for no longer than nine (9) months and twelve (12) months for full-time and part-time Ph.D candidates respectively, unless under special circumstances."
Best,
Hill What I know is PHD is free in USA schools, state universities phd students get scholarships, 100% for most if not all of them, most of top 100 school offers both scholarship and monthly salary called stipend.... so when you talk about phd being expensive in diaspora, I don't know what you mean! What you are talking about is a rare case when you can get a fellowship, grant, or an assistantship- you are basically working as an employee of the university, and they are "paying" you in tuition- and they are extremely hard to get now-a-days, and if one does get into such a program, they will require you to be in it full time, and maybe even work part time as an assistant of sorts in the program. Even then, your costs will still be less at Kenyatta, because you aren't factoring in cost of living, etc. And don't forget what ends up hurting many East African students in the US- getting in is one thing, STAYING in is another- you have to work so very hard to STAY in the program. If you apply and get into a program that will cover your costs, by all means, GO, but if not, remember, when using scholarships, they likely won't cover ALL your costs. Also, some don't give money to international students, and depending on your visa, you may not be allowed to work off campus, and will have to rely totally on the stipend. So you have to be very careful and do your research before hand. There is no "free lunch". A very, very top student with a 4.0 GPA in secondary and undergrad along with several letters of recommendation from professors and professionals would likely be your competition for the money. If that's you, more power to you. Rol 10ut/drun Kard don't promise something that is rare at 100% if that's not the case. Is that also how you would sell securities? With a 100% guarantee? You "promised" another student on this very forum that you knew a 100% cost-covered undergrad program, he or she looked into it, and said "doesn't apply to me/I'm not in the target area". So much for guarantees. Here's a good link: http://www.brighthub.com...ate/articles/80224.aspx
Best, Hill
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
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Lolest! wrote:Mlevi is a dubious character, but so is Mlima. Reserve such statements for when I ask you for money, guarantee something 100%, or refuse to fulfill a pledge, or ask you to join a "driven" investment scam. Which will be never. So until "never" comes don't you think it's a bit unfair of you to compare me to Rol 10ut/drun Kard, when I've asked nothing dubious of you? Best, Hill
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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jasonhill wrote:Drunkard wrote:What I know is PHD is free in USA schools, state universities phd students get scholarships, 100% for most if not all of them, most of top 100 school offers both scholarship and monthly salary called stipend.... so when you talk about phd being expensive in diaspora, I don't know what you mean! What you are talking about is a rare case when you can get a fellowship, grant, or an assistantship- you are basically working as an employee of the university, and they are "paying" you in tuition- and they are extremely hard to get now-a-days, and if one does get into such a program, they will require you to be in it full time, and maybe even work part time as an assistant of sorts in the program. Even then, your costs will still be less at Kenyatta, because you aren't factoring in cost of living, etc. And don't forget what ends up hurting many East African students in the US- getting in is one thing, STAYING in is another- you have to work so very hard to STAY in the program. If you apply and get into a program that will cover your costs, by all means, GO, but if not, remember, when using scholarships, they likely won't cover ALL your costs. Also, some don't give money to international students, and depending on your visa, you may not be allowed to work off campus, and will have to rely totally on the stipend. So you have to be very careful and do your research before hand. There is no "free lunch". A very, very top student with a 4.0 GPA in secondary and undergrad along with several letters of recommendation from professors and professionals would likely be your competition for the money. If that's you, more power to you. Best, Hill Mlevi paints a very rosy picture regarding funding of PhD study in the US. He should tell it to the birds. Only a few students get full tuition and stipend scholarships. The rest if they lucky will get full or partial tuition scholarships and have to fend for themselves as far as living expenses, books, conference attendances etc are concerned..They thus have to take up research and teaching assistantships. And the situation is getting no better with the economic downturn that has heavily impacted universities.
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Does mlevi have to comment on everything? our goals are best achieved indirectly
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