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The stock market has Bottomed
Pierce
#101 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:07:39 PM
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ngapat wrote:
any further dip will give me a heart attack


After a 70% loss on my portfolio(if I were to sell today), nothing should kill yousmile
mlennyma
#102 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:10:50 PM
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Location: nairobi
Its blood in every human outlet.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Sure
#103 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:16:14 PM
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the deal wrote:
@Sure you have seen the light my friend..here is something interesting...In January 2011 T-Bill was at 2.4%...NSE20 was at 4600..fast track to September 2011...T-Bill at 11.4%...NSE20 is at 3277...you see that relationship smile


Thanks Mr. But this is between you and me. If we educate the Speculators here, we will reduce recipients of our inflated share prices when the bulls return. However, even now, someone is selling and someone is buying.

Anyway, it still baffles me why when someone asks, "which came first, the egg or the chicken". Anyone asking that question is professing his/her stupidity.

If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.

@Young, where thee art?
Wisdom to detect when share prices hit rock bottom.
When interest on bonds keep going up, you know the bear run is on high street. When interest on bonds start leveling, the bear has met the bull and they have hit rock bottom. When the interest rates on bonds start coming down, the bull has overpowered the bear and you better be riding the bull.
ecstacy
#104 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:40:33 PM
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Can this market behave and head south further. Lower lows are coming and 'we' await.
ProverB
#105 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:47:45 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
@ProverB, let's take your argument to its logical conclusion, i run a number of small businesses i have 12 staff members who have in employment for the last four years, the company is doing and has healthy reserves but right now business is low and staff are idle and we have to service our loans and i'm actively thinking of firing half of them in December shifting to a virtual office to cut down on rent until things pick up again. So i will pick up the savings on staff costs and rent and pack it in t-bills and 6 kenyans will have no jobs including the office messenger who was hoping to get married in December. Like they say business is not charity. Just saying


12 employees..between now and december..least u can do is introduce them to wazua and the wealth of knowledge u have on investments such that your letting them go is a blessing instead and not a misfortune.
Warren Buffet wrote:
the stock market, no, the investments world is not your grand mother; do not expect handouts or fair treatment.


if your employees go home broke..what would be the difference between u and our inept govt?
..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
ProverB
#106 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:55:40 PM
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Sure wrote:
Thanks Mr. But this is between you and me. If we educate the Speculators here, we will reduce recipients of our inflated share prices when the bulls return. However, even now, someone is selling and someone is buying.


@sure...for a moment i'd thought u called Deal Mr Butt though on shorthand smile Now i see the value of a comma.

that said.. speculators serve as wind..escalate whatever main trend is prevailing..whether bull..or bear..similar to wind on water= storm or wind on fire=catastrophy..

info is power...what u DON'T know will kill u.
..Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven...Matt5:16
- 1769 Oxford King James Bible 'Authorized Version
Nabwire
#107 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:50:16 AM
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Just wondering if the rain is still there or should we wait for kshs/usd at 120 to confirm ladies can/do think beyond their noses?
Cde Monomotapa
#108 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:14:05 AM
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Nabwire wrote:
Just wondering if the rain is still there or should we wait for kshs/usd at 120 to confirm ladies can/do think beyond their noses?

Lots of rain already in the Coast headed into Eastern. Can't say much abt KES but i'm bullish on improved food supply and enhanced hydro
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#109 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:28:48 AM
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Ride the high on bills, particularly the 91days but keep an eye on the stock mkt, so that your not left by the bus!
And some cash on you would do!
@SufficientlyP
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#110 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:36:10 AM
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Pierce wrote:
ngapat wrote:
any further dip will give me a heart attack


After a 70% loss on my portfolio(if I were to sell today), nothing should kill yousmile

You are not alone my friend!
Question is, would you rather stay in stocks,(probability of further tanking of the NSE is real) or realise the losses(soo painful) and put your cash on 3/6 months T/bill and raid the stock market mid next year and buy the same stocks at 10% lower or more?
Tafakari hayo!
@SufficientlyP
the deal
#111 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:59:11 AM
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Woow highest bid on EABL today is Sh140...KCB traded at Sh15 today...seat back and take a chill pill...as bargains...bargains...come your way...begining to love this bear!!!
Aguytrying
#112 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:11:02 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Pierce wrote:
ngapat wrote:
any further dip will give me a heart attack


After a 70% loss on my portfolio(if I were to sell today), nothing should kill yousmile

You are not alone my friend!
Question is, would you rather stay in stocks,(probability of further tanking of the NSE is real) or realise the losses(soo painful) and put your cash on 3/6 months T/bill and raid the stock market mid next year and buy the same stocks at 10% lower or more?
Tafakari hayo!


It would be highly unwise to realise ones loses now. Must be about 50% or so. The time to do it was at around 4000, when the index fall began. Just sit tight, the money aint going no-where. accumulate cash now, then wait to average when your the time is right. then sit back and wait for 2014
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Pierce
#113 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:34:28 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Pierce wrote:
ngapat wrote:
any further dip will give me a heart attack


After a 70% loss on my portfolio(if I were to sell today), nothing should kill yousmile

You are not alone my friend!
Question is, would you rather stay in stocks,(probability of further tanking of the NSE is real) or realise the losses(soo painful) and put your cash on 3/6 months T/bill and raid the stock market mid next year and buy the same stocks at 10% lower or more?
Tafakari hayo!


It would be highly unwise to realise ones loses now. Must be about 50% or so. The time to do it was at around 4000, when the index fall began. Just sit tight, the money aint going no-where. accumulate cash now, then wait to average when your the time is right. then sit back and wait for 2014


20What?

GFF!
Kirika
#114 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:27:20 PM
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20What?

GFF!
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

The year he quoted can induce a heart attack.
Aguytrying
#115 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:59:28 PM
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Its only three years away. Whats the hurry? Unless you want to suit stocks all together and are in a hurry to get out. Or you need the liquidity asap.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
'user'
#116 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:06:53 PM
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My hypothesis: millionaires will be made by 2013 through NSE


Time: The year is 2013 Month march

Action plan: enter now on a monthly basis consistently

Variables : Peaceful erections, economic recovery in the euro zone and USA, good rains in 2011/2012.

Outcome : millionares are made at the NSE

Emotions now :Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad

Emotions March 2013 :smile smile smile smile






2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
ecstacy
#117 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:07:40 PM
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Pole to all speculators who've since gone 'long term' investors! smile
ecstacy
#118 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:10:02 PM
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Cde Monomotapa
#119 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:40:34 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Pole to all speculators who've since gone 'long term' investors! smile

Wasikonde!! This the time to buy stocks that'll pay you over 12% div.yields with economic stabilty/recovery.
the deal
#120 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:41:48 PM
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182 Day T-Bill surges to 14.9% and only gets 20% Subscription LOL
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