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Layman
#301 Posted : Thursday, June 30, 2011 4:23:21 PM
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.....the pace at which info flows out of this company is too slow. Cant they just release our share certs for the 22%
Kalameni
#302 Posted : Tuesday, July 05, 2011 5:46:04 PM
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Cic class A shares on offer at ksh 27,is this a gud deal taking into consideration thew won't trade at the Nse.
jerry
#303 Posted : Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:01:13 PM
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Layman wrote:
.....the pace at which info flows out of this company is too slow. Cant they just release our share certs for the 22%

@Layman. We need an insider to tell us whether this 22% was eligible for the Ksh1.60 dividend.
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blaqlegend
#304 Posted : Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:41:53 PM
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@ Kalameni, I only own class A shares(12,500) through my sacco. I'm considering adding more at this price of 27.
Will these shares be treated(split) the same way as class B shares except for the longer lock out period after listing?
If so, i presume that it is a good investment,only that the capital gains will be realized(unlocked) in the next 5-7 years or so...
kindly shed some light...
I'm seriously contemplating going stocking up BIG TIME!
TUPAC
#305 Posted : Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:13:54 PM
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Kalameni wrote:
Cic class A shares on offer at ksh 27,is this a gud deal taking into consideration thew won't trade at the Nse.

is there any likelyhood that they could sell class B shares to us? or a rights issue.
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Hunderwear
#306 Posted : Wednesday, July 06, 2011 5:34:35 PM
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blaqlegend wrote:
@ Kalameni, I only own class A shares(12,500) through my sacco. I'm considering adding more at this price of 27.
Will these shares be treated(split) the same way as class B shares except for the longer lock out period after listing?
If so, i presume that it is a good investment,only that the capital gains will be realized(unlocked) in the next 5-7 years or so...
kindly shed some light...
I'm seriously contemplating going stocking up BIG TIME!

>they wil be treated the same except longer lock in period.I expect that they wil be declassified prior to listing as nse doesnt allow more than one class of shares to be listed(this is what happened to Coop bank btw).I had clas B but was tempted to sel them when the price trippled.How can I acquire the class A now?
blaqlegend
#307 Posted : Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:15:55 PM
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You could only buy through a sacco member especially CIC or Coop bank staff members...bought 'mine' through mama watoto.
Hunderwear
#308 Posted : Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:38:18 PM
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Meaning you can only get through this two saccos(cic&coop bank) ?Do they issue you with a individual certificate for clas A or they remain under the sacco's name?
Hunderwear
#309 Posted : Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:18:44 PM
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Cic records the highest market share jump.Its just a matter of time before it takes number 1 slot
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luxel
#310 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:33:21 AM
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Rush on for CIC stock, but is the share overvalued?

Posted Sunday, September 18 2011 THE EAST AFRICAN

CIC INSURANCE’S share price has risen more than threefold since the beginning of the year as investors look forward to a share split that will see them gain 20 new shares for each one currently held.

Currently, the insurer’s shares are trading at US cents 84 per share while in January the shares were trading at US cents 26 on the over the counter (OTC) market.

Also, investors have another reason to be attracted to the stock; CIC plans to list on the Nairobi Stock Exchange in the first quarter of 2012. This will make it easier to trade their shares compared with the OTC market.

There has been a lot of interest in the counter, especially this month, since CIC’s books close at the end of September. Only those on CIC’s register when the books close will be eligible for the new shares when the shares are split.

However, as investors bid up the price in anticipation of the listing and the share split, there is a need for caution.

At a price of US cents 84, the stock is trading at twice its book value — which means investors are paying twice for CIC’s net assets. Other listed insurance firms at the NSE are trading at about 1.5 times their book value, yet they have a track record of consistent earnings.

It will be wise for the investors looking to buy into CIC before the end of September to lower their expectations of the counter. Right, now CIC’s shares look overvalued.
bird_man
#311 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:55:01 PM
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So are shareholders going to get new certificates showing that the share has been split?Whats the new price now?4sh maybe?
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Hunderwear
#312 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2011 4:00:12 PM
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bird_man wrote:
So are shareholders going to get new certificates showing that the share has been split?Whats the new price now?4sh maybe?

pkoli should answer ths together with the halfyear performance
BGL
#313 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:14:58 PM
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caveat emptor!
those buying at 80bob beware.
please remember that Transcentury was trading @ 50bob otc. On listing via introduction it is @ 25 bob.
I do not see the justification for the share price jumb from 27bob to 80bob in ten months!
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Hunderwear
#314 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2011 9:49:42 PM
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BGL wrote:
caveat emptor!
those buying at 80bob beware.
please remember that Transcentury was trading @ 50bob otc. On listing via introduction it is @ 25 bob.
I do not see the justification for the share price jumb from 27bob to 80bob in ten months!

Wacha kutisha watu na kumislead!You can never compare Tcl with CiC.Cic btw is the only insurance company that is profitable to the core i.e insurance busines.Their profits have been increasing yoy and the trailing pe @80 is 10.Its a healthy busines and 65 % of the shares are not tradable.If ask me ths share stil has some rallying to do before and after listing.
youcan'tstopusnow
#315 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2011 10:16:08 PM
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A trailing P.E of 10 does not tally with other listed insurance companies' P.E. Except for CFIH's of course...
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Hunderwear
#316 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2011 11:02:17 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
A trailing P.E of 10 does not tally with other listed companies' P.E. Except for CFIH's of course...

somebody here said the listing price wil be 7sh.The share has to get to this price at least OTC before listing.Look at family bank,a week or two ago I sold mine at 35 yet the introductory price wil be 30 or so accordng to the media.The OTC market is always bullish prelistin.post- is another story.Cic wil be pushed high coz of the constrained suply.The market seems to be aware that cic is a cash cow
anika66
#317 Posted : Sunday, October 09, 2011 11:27:31 PM
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I ama 'Wanjiku', can some good soul please tell me how to buy shares on the OTC and how does one follow the prices, are they published anywhere? A very confused 'Wanjiku'
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Layman
#318 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2011 10:03:58 AM
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Go to any stock broker (Mostly Kingdom securities @ Co-op bank house) and place an order/Make enquiries. They will be very useful. You can call them, the telephone number is found here: http://www.co-opbank.co....Home/Kingdom-Securities

Regarding prices, theres no market price so it can be anything as low as kshs 27 bob per share or as hight as past 100 bob per share. Its the seller to tell the broker the price to sell at.
bartum
#319 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2011 10:43:21 AM
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anika66 wrote:
I ama 'Wanjiku', can some good soul please tell me how to buy shares on the OTC and how does one follow the prices, are they published anywhere? A very confused 'Wanjiku'

books closed way back,apart from saccos till end of this month.listing by introduction.shareholding of saccos nearly 70% and coop bank 24.9%
Hunderwear
#320 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2011 1:06:16 PM
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anika66 wrote:
I ama 'Wanjiku', can some good soul please tell me how to buy shares on the OTC and how does one follow the prices, are they published anywhere? A very confused 'Wanjiku'

Wil be offering my 3000 at 100 when books open and wil take you through the whole process.Let me know if interested
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