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Employee/thief
carygoh
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:22:00 PM
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If an employee steals from you,do you fire his ass,or you retain him and let the salary pay whatever he stole.
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Ali Baba
#2 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:25:00 AM
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Fire him.He/she is of questionable integrity.

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Kamaa
#3 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:11:00 AM
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if you retain him so as to recoup the value of the stolen thing from his pay,he can as well as steal something else to compensate the deductions...

FIRE HIM!

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McReggae
#4 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:37:00 AM
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Depends on the actual situation but as for me he will most likely get the SACK,a thief remains a thief!!!!

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Kaigangio
#5 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:14:00 AM
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since the employee has violated the code of conduct as stipulated in the company's regulations by either stealing or misappropriation,then the employee qualifies for a summary dismissal...fire him!!!

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Venture
#6 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:28:00 AM
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Me thinks it depends on situation,eg
A cashier causing loss to the company by giving out incorrect change can be surcharged but one pocketing company cash should be fired!
se7en
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:13:00 AM
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let him not hit him/herself with the door on their way out... it just gets worse! and this is from past experience where I was the employer lest ya'll are wondering...

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Magigi
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:27:00 AM
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...there are 2 ways to this. If for example,money or something else under his custody gets lost,he is responsible. Money can get lost when he is paying out things in the office eg per diems,office supplies etc. But it does not mean that he is the one who stole. In that case he does not need a sack but a warning is in order.

.. On the other hand if s/he literally steals and there is enough evidence that /she did it,he deserves to be fired instantly...
mozenrat
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:01:00 AM
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I suspect that your dilemna regards your loss..

My advice,if there is incontrovertible evidence of his guilt,accept the loss as a sunk cost,and fire the dude....

Its an indictment of your recruitment process (or possibly your remuneration policy)...

Learn the lesson and move on...

If you keep him,he is likely to 'infect' and embolden others who may have similar tendencies...

Yep... prior experience too...
carygoh
#10 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:54:00 AM
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@all si mambo na short,she literally stole
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Shak
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:43:00 AM
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I wouldn't just kick her out. I would have her arrested.... Yup,past experience too

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shawny
#12 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:43:00 AM
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and so what are you waiting for!!
Noble
#13 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:36:00 PM
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When money is lost,nothing is lost.

When Health is lost,something is lost.

BUT

When character is lost,everything is lost.

What did your employee lose. If its character then FIRE.


Intelligentsia
#14 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:41:00 PM
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There was a lapse - in policy/ procedures,somewhere. Identify this loophole,plug it asap before it is exploited yet again to fleece you. Was this person alone? In cahoots with others. Fire decisivley. Let culprit be arrested/ charged as a lesson to remaining staff.

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VituVingiSana
#15 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:25:00 PM
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If u do not fire the crook... it sends to a message to the rest that theft is a-ok

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Tebes
#16 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 5:26:00 AM
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@ Carygoh

Since your employer is sufficiently philantropic to give you free lunch,an employee (or your own employees) should not take advantage and steal from you,crack the whip!


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mtaalam
#17 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 7:04:00 AM
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My friends,learn to forgive. God set a good example with Adam. Demote the guy and let him work harder. Imagine a thief with no job... how have you helped the situation?

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carygoh
#18 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 7:24:00 AM
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Yeah we are provided with lunch,but the idiot stole,issue is part of management wants him in others want him in
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akowally
#19 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 7:40:00 AM
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I think that such things always depend on a lot of things. It shouldn't be so automatic to fire someone. If there is past experience let him get help as to why he did what he did. This way if there is a problem let it be addressed. I also think that past experiences also matter. Is he a regular thief or this is a one off. So my take address the problem first,and if he doesn't change after all has been done,then firing should be the last option.

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JDS
#20 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2009 7:40:00 AM
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Fire the guy s/he has lost is character and name. Please let me know when you will be recruiting for that position. This is serious.
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