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SAFARICOM SAYS TO RAISE CALLING RATES BY 1 SHILLING ACROSS TARIFFS ON WEAK SHILLING,
Jamani
#41 Posted : Saturday, October 01, 2011 4:29:52 PM
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Quoted from the standard newspaper 01-Oct-2011

""Safaricom will be very sensitive to the tough times facing customers when increasing tariffs, but the business must be sustainable," the firm’s Chief Executive Officer Bob Collymore said in a press briefing Friday.

"The nature of our business is that most of our purchases are in foreign currencies."
Safaricom is the largest mobile phone services operator by subscriber base. Collymore said inflation and a weak shilling, as well as the high cost of diesel used in generators to run base stations that are away from the main electricity grid, were some of the factors that had raised the company’s operating expenditure.
"This is perhaps one of the most difficult decisions that my management team and I have had to make," he said"

...........Are these factors not facing the other players? or one just wants to flex for the sake of it....
Jamani
#42 Posted : Saturday, October 01, 2011 4:53:18 PM
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Quoted from the standard newspaper 01-Oct-2011

"Essar Telecom’s yu converted its free-all-day promotion into a permanent tariff earlier this week. The tariff allows subscribers to pay Sh2 to make free calls between 6am and 6pm.

Yu said its decision to settle for a permanent tariff was informed by its need to grow its customer base. The operator is targeting the youth and lower segment of the market, who have a preference for lower calling rates."

Really?..... (and for the last one year these youth have never hooked up for free, come-on!!! isnt the population tilted towards the youth in majority?) ......thats the reason they are not increasing their call rates! Maybe we should check out CCK rules on falling numbers and risk of loosing license then we shall understand the freebies..... someone is hanging in there till a better offer comes..... no expansion, no promotion, no.......
sparkly
#43 Posted : Saturday, October 01, 2011 6:01:33 PM
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hisah wrote:
Anybody see this math - those that shift to other operators from the green elephant will make the other operators pay more interconnection fees to the elephant since it is cheaper to call from the other operators... Unless elephant loses a huge chunk of its subscribers (say 40%), the tariff hike is a master act! Talk of shifting your costs to your competitor...

Looks like MNP was a huge puff. Kenyans still retain two or more Sims, with majority of calls terminating in Mpesa. Queer habits...
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#44 Posted : Saturday, October 01, 2011 8:58:22 PM
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i have just reactivated my dormant zain oops airtel line.33.3% is too much to bear.I have not made any call with safaricom since the new rate.
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#45 Posted : Saturday, October 01, 2011 8:59:02 PM
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hisah wrote:
those that shift to other operators from the green elephant will make the other operators pay more interconnection fees to the elephant since it is cheaper to call from the other operators

correct, however safcom will only get 2.21/per min as interconnection fee, the network charging 3/ for calls to safcom will earn 0.79 cents. This means safcom will be 'losing' 1.79/ because if the call was within the safcom network they woul have earned 4/. If a good number migrate from safcom to other network, calls to safcom may become fewer because the cheaper networks already have incentives for calls within their networks. This may signal the beginning of a club effect
jerry
#46 Posted : Saturday, October 01, 2011 9:12:34 PM
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@hisah. I remember Baks stopped further reduction in interconnect charges. With increase in calling rates the only reasonable thing is to maintain status quo (interconnect rates). I have ordered SCON shares @2.90 and I will accumulate but I'll continue using more of my AirTEL line as usual.
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hisah
#47 Posted : Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:54:02 PM
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jimmy1 wrote:
hisah wrote:
those that shift to other operators from the green elephant will make the other operators pay more interconnection fees to the elephant since it is cheaper to call from the other operators

correct, however safcom will only get 2.21/per min as interconnection fee, the network charging 3/ for calls to safcom will earn 0.79 cents. This means safcom will be 'losing' 1.79/ because if the call was within the safcom network they woul have earned 4/. If a good number migrate from safcom to other network, calls to safcom may become fewer because the cheaper networks already have incentives for calls within their networks. This may signal the beginning of a club effect

This is why i stated the elephant trick will be at stake if more than 40% users shifted. But with the mpesa club effect, those 40% lines would still be active. And how much do you pay for each P2P money transfer... How much money did mpesa move as a % of the GDP... This elephant is morphing into a bank, not a telco!
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hisah
#48 Posted : Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:59:28 PM
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sparkly wrote:
hisah wrote:
Anybody see this math - those that shift to other operators from the green elephant will make the other operators pay more interconnection fees to the elephant since it is cheaper to call from the other operators... Unless elephant loses a huge chunk of its subscribers (say 40%), the tariff hike is a master act! Talk of shifting your costs to your competitor...

Looks like MNP was a huge puff. Kenyans still retain two or more Sims, with majority of calls terminating in Mpesa. Queer habits...

MNP has been a DOA (dead on arrival) concept globally. Who is running the MNP in KE? Then research further to follow the money...

http://www.telecomasia.net/content/mnp-flop-china

http://www.mnp-india.com...i/62-mnp-flops-in-india

http://mybroadband.co.za/nephp/5182.html

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hisah
#49 Posted : Sunday, October 02, 2011 1:04:51 PM
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jerry wrote:
@hisah. I remember Baks stopped further reduction in interconnect charges. With increase in calling rates the only reasonable thing is to maintain status quo (interconnect rates). I have ordered SCON shares @2.90 and I will accumulate but I'll continue using more of my AirTEL line as usual.

You are not a loyal shareholder smile Imagine if stocks were political parties, wewe kwisha...
I think there is scope to test 2.50/- But if this thing can hit 2, I'll be very glad to mop up.
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#50 Posted : Sunday, October 02, 2011 1:47:16 PM
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I doubt this will affect safcoms revenue negatively. Very few will dump their safcom lines. Saf marketing is the best in the industry. Yu and orange do not market aggressively.
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