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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/23/2010 Posts: 1,229
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majimaji wrote:
@ For Sport, you can learn to derive the formulas thro' various methods. But if you can't remember basic formulas, how about derivation using say calculus?
My point is I dont need to. I cant do a derivation using calculus (hope I said that right) and hey look, here I am. However, someone else may need to learn that stuff because they use it on a day to day basis. If education taught me how to think through and solve problems (not necessarily calculus, wave theory and so on), then it succeeded.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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For Sport wrote:mukiha wrote: So you think mathematics is useful: when was the last time you calculated the area of a triangle? Would you then conclude that the formula [a-half-base-times-height] was useless? Not exactly useless but I'd rather they teach me how to find these formulas when I need them. had even forgotten its a half base times height. Guess how we compute compound interest...or how we figure out mortgage repayments...log onto a website, key in figures and presto a neat tabulation. But "they" did teach you how and where to get the formulae. Did you not get to use the math tables? Now don't tell me that you don't know where you can get a math table.... TBC, KNEC Bookshop etc.... or even Mr. Google! Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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i went thru a public,primary secondary and university. I turned out ok. Private schools have no life and who told u anyway that those private teachers, if given the chance would not act the same? #niggasitdown. LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:Magigi, wewe ulikuwa mwalimu? Asi? Yeah...Taught Literature in English...My students used to pass so well...My classes were evry well attended...I will go back during my sunset days...ie if I don't go before @Fast and Furious..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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For Sport wrote:mukiha wrote: So you think mathematics is useful: when was the last time you calculated the area of a triangle? Would you then conclude that the formula [a-half-base-times-height] was useless? Not exactly useless but I'd rather they teach me how to find these formulas when I need them. had even forgotten its a half base times height. Guess how we compute compound interest...or how we figure out mortgage repayments...log onto a website, key in figures and presto a neat tabulation. hehe... interesting.... its not so much on where to find the formulas but rather if the numbers will make sense to you... if you cant figure out that the mortgage repayment will be a rip-off because the figures dont make sense to you then there is no use of knowing the formula of calculating them.... My bro, who is in "jua kali", (people think these guys dont use some 'education') was calculating for me the costing of excavating a plot.... its typical mathematics... that's how you know if you are being conned by the service provider or not.... or if you are the service provider, that is how you know if you can do that work profitably or not.... if you cant interpret the figures, dont bother with the fomulas... that's what you are taught to do - make sense of the figures.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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For Sport wrote:problem is the kiswahili they are taught is not the kiswahili we speak. Pick up any supposedly simple story book in kiswahili and if you go beyond page 3 without reaching for a kamusi, then you teach swahili.
E.g. Book titled "Pupa za Bupa" (3e)(I couldnt even figure out what the title meant)
On page 1: Tulikuwa tunakula chajio wakati baba alipokuja na habari hii nzuri.
i dont know if i eat chajio but i suspect i do. I completely feel you! mmmmmh, what class is this? It's been challenging for me to check homework for my son.... in class two!!.. totally embarrassing but the kiswahili they read these days is totally different... seriously!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Euge wrote: how Kiswahili adds value. The Kiswahili our kids are taught in school is very tough for young brains....Some years back my son asked me the Swahili name for nursery school......Something i had heard but i didn't get right and so i told him it's "shule ya kuchekelewa"  while it's "shule ya chekechea" or something....he almost died of laughter. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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kyt wrote:i went thru a public,primary secondary and university. I turned out ok. Private schools have no life Are you sure about that? I can assure you 90-99% of parents in wazua take their kids to private. Do you or would you take yours to public primary?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/28/2006 Posts: 1,799
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Njung'e wrote:Euge wrote: how Kiswahili adds value. The Kiswahili our kids are taught in school is very tough for young brains....Some years back my son asked me the Swahili name for nursery school......Something i had heard but i didn't get right and so i told him it's "shule ya kuchekelewa" while it's "shule ya chekechea" or something....he almost died of laughter. hata mimi am almost dying of laughter...  kweli wewe ni guka...ati shule ya kuchekelewa..
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/9/2007 Posts: 420 Location: Nairobi
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[/quote] I completely feel you! mmmmmh, what class is this? It's been challenging for me to check homework for my son.... in class two!!.. totally embarrassing but the kiswahili they read these days is totally different... seriously![/quote] this is so true....kwanza hii Kiswahili mufti... Imagine I learnt color blue is samawati from my class 3 kid  we still laugh about this ...... coz i did kiswahili up to A'level!!!!
Opinion is free, truth is sacred.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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If you think helping your kid with Kiswahili homework is hard, try it with CRE: "Who was Jesus' uncle?" Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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mukiha wrote:If you think helping your kid with Kiswahili homework is hard, try it with CRE: "Who was Jesus' uncle?"
Or try explaining how virgin is not Mary's first name.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/18/2009 Posts: 175
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2012 wrote:mukiha wrote:If you think helping your kid with Kiswahili homework is hard, try it with CRE: "Who was Jesus' uncle?"
Or try explaining that Mary's first name is not Virgin. So what was Mary's first name and who was Jesus' Uncle? just in case the question pops up Some you win some you lose
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Mtublack wrote:2012 wrote:mukiha wrote:If you think helping your kid with Kiswahili homework is hard, try it with CRE: "Who was Jesus' uncle?"
Or try explaining that Mary's first name is not Virgin. So what was Mary's first name and who was Jesus' Uncle? just in case the question pops up Her first name is virgin. The kid will never doubt it unless he/she already knows and is toying with you or you introduce doubt into their mind which is what I stupidly did with my niece when I told her that her name is not V....
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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How about when they have to do their music homework? I never can tell whether she has done her violin homework. I just ask her to play and trust that what she has played is what she was asked to do and that she has done all of it. I cant even attempt to guess whether she got it right or wrong. Lord, thank you!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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Mtublack wrote:2012 wrote:mukiha wrote:If you think helping your kid with Kiswahili homework is hard, try it with CRE: "Who was Jesus' uncle?"
Or try explaining that Mary's first name is not Virgin. So what was Mary's first name and who was Jesus' Uncle? just in case the question pops up @Mtublack; read the bible! "THE MEDIUM IS THE MESSAGE" - You can get the answer if you do a little research; that's the lesson I remember when 8-4-4 was introduced, many urban parents complained that their children were being taught carpentry - "whose furniture will they all be making?" was a common question. Then I explained to one couple that the idea is NOT to produce carpenters but to let the children realise how difficult it is to make a chair, or whatever. That way, they will gain respect for furniture and not jump on chairs etc. Yaani, UKIONA VYAELEA, VIMEUNDWA! And there your are: I have just found a use for Kiswahili! Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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...as my high school [not secondary, but high] teacher was fond of saying: "You come to A-Levels to gain respect for books" Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/13/2011 Posts: 151
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Seems its not only Kenyans with issuesCommon sense is the most evenly distributed quantity in the world. Everyone thinks he has enough.
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