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Of teachers, pupils and indiscipline
For Sport
#21 Posted : Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:51:35 PM
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majimaji wrote:


@ For Sport, you can learn to derive the formulas thro' various methods. But if you can't remember basic formulas, how about derivation using say calculus?

My point is I dont need to. I cant do a derivation using calculus (hope I said that right) and hey look, here I am. However, someone else may need to learn that stuff because they use it on a day to day basis. If education taught me how to think through and solve problems (not necessarily calculus, wave theory and so on), then it succeeded.
mukiha
#22 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:16:53 AM
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For Sport wrote:
mukiha wrote:
So you think mathematics is useful: when was the last time you calculated the area of a triangle? Would you then conclude that the formula [a-half-base-times-height] was useless?


Not exactly useless but I'd rather they teach me how to find these formulas when I need them. had even forgotten its a half base times height.
Guess how we compute compound interest...or how we figure out mortgage repayments...log onto a website, key in figures and presto a neat tabulation.


But "they" did teach you how and where to get the formulae. Did you not get to use the math tables? Now don't tell me that you don't know where you can get a math table.... TBC, KNEC Bookshop etc.... or even Mr. Google!
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kyt
#23 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:44:29 AM
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i went thru a public,primary secondary and university. I turned out ok. Private schools have no life and who told u anyway that those private teachers, if given the chance would not act the same? #niggasitdown.
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Magigi
#24 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:15:31 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Magigi, wewe ulikuwa mwalimu? Asi?


Yeah...Taught Literature in English...My students used to pass so well...My classes were evry well attended...I will go back during my sunset days...ie if I don't go before @Fast and Furious..
Wendz
#25 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:37:43 PM
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For Sport wrote:
mukiha wrote:
So you think mathematics is useful: when was the last time you calculated the area of a triangle? Would you then conclude that the formula [a-half-base-times-height] was useless?


Not exactly useless but I'd rather they teach me how to find these formulas when I need them. had even forgotten its a half base times height.
Guess how we compute compound interest...or how we figure out mortgage repayments...log onto a website, key in figures and presto a neat tabulation.


hehe... interesting.... its not so much on where to find the formulas but rather if the numbers will make sense to you... if you cant figure out that the mortgage repayment will be a rip-off because the figures dont make sense to you then there is no use of knowing the formula of calculating them....

My bro, who is in "jua kali", (people think these guys dont use some 'education') was calculating for me the costing of excavating a plot.... its typical mathematics... that's how you know if you are being conned by the service provider or not.... or if you are the service provider, that is how you know if you can do that work profitably or not.... if you cant interpret the figures, dont bother with the fomulas... that's what you are taught to do - make sense of the figures.
Wendz
#26 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:44:04 PM
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For Sport wrote:
problem is the kiswahili they are taught is not the kiswahili we speak. Pick up any supposedly simple story book in kiswahili and if you go beyond page 3 without reaching for a kamusi, then you teach swahili.
E.g. Book titled "Pupa za Bupa" (3e)(I couldnt even figure out what the title meant)
On page 1: Tulikuwa tunakula chajio wakati baba alipokuja na habari hii nzuri.
i dont know if i eat chajio but i suspect i do.


I completely feel you! mmmmmh, what class is this? It's been challenging for me to check homework for my son.... in class two!!.. totally embarrassing but the kiswahili they read these days is totally different... seriously!
Njung'e
#27 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:15:24 PM
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Euge wrote:
how Kiswahili adds value.


The Kiswahili our kids are taught in school is very tough for young brains....Some years back my son asked me the Swahili name for nursery school......Something i had heard but i didn't get right and so i told him it's "shule ya kuchekelewa"smile while it's "shule ya chekechea" or something....he almost died of laughter.
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2012
#28 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:16:14 PM
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kyt wrote:
i went thru a public,primary secondary and university. I turned out ok. Private schools have no life


Are you sure about that? I can assure you 90-99% of parents in wazua take their kids to private. Do you or would you take yours to public primary?

BBI will solve it
:)
chemos
#29 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:19:27 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Euge wrote:
how Kiswahili adds value.


The Kiswahili our kids are taught in school is very tough for young brains....Some years back my son asked me the Swahili name for nursery school......Something i had heard but i didn't get right and so i told him it's "shule ya kuchekelewa"smile while it's "shule ya chekechea" or something....he almost died of laughter.



hata mimi am almost dying of laughter... Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly kweli wewe ni guka...ati shule ya kuchekelewa..
Blackberry
#30 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:43:19 PM
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I completely feel you! mmmmmh, what class is this? It's been challenging for me to check homework for my son.... in class two!!.. totally embarrassing but the kiswahili they read these days is totally different... seriously![/quote]

this is so true....kwanza hii Kiswahili mufti... Imagine I learnt color blue is samawati from my class 3 kidd'oh! d'oh! we still laugh about this ...... cozLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly i did kiswahili up to A'level!!!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

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