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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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what would be the ideal value for a 504 Station Wagon - about 12-14 years old and in fairly decent condition. What would you pay for such a car?
Is there great demand for this as a matatu?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2008 Posts: 241
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The going rate depending on the condition is about 300K give or take, they are no longer viable as matatus since the entrance of the 'Kangaroo' toyota's..unless you take them to Kisumu i guess... P/S At the age you are specifying it will seem to be an import which is a minus as far as value is concerened Quote:Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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iKenya wrote:The going rate depending on the condition is about 300K give or take, they are no longer viable as matatus since the entrance of the 'Kangaroo' toyota's..unless you take them to Kisumu i guess...
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At the age you are specifying it will seem to be an import which is a minus as far as value is concerened Not an import - locally assembled...so far I have seen between 270-320 for well kept ones - one previous owner - some parastatal or other careful owners that replaced and not repaired.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2008 Posts: 241
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Okay, thats the price reange, the issue with them is the maintenence, with the shutting down of marshalls and the concept/theory (sadly true) that a (newer) toyota can do anything the old peugeot's can do better,and at a cheaper rate is partly the reason for its demise....And of course, anytime you take it to Ocieng for wiring, all he can tell u is 'modificasion'... Quote:Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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iKenya wrote:Okay, thats the price reange, the issue with them is the maintenence, with the shutting down of marshalls and the concept/theory (sadly true) that a (newer) toyota can do anything the old peugeot's can do better,and at a cheaper rate is partly the reason for its demise....And of course, anytime you take it to Ocieng for wiring, all he can tell u is 'modificasion'... modificasion  That's the beauty with these old relics - wiring is not an issue as it is with newer cars  . I'd not be a stranger to the wiring...indeed I'm intimate with other parts of it...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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And if I may add, I do not think there is a Toyota in the same class that can do what a Peugeot can - maybe when we look at Toyota Hilux and such...but in terms of durability, longevity, ground clearance, etc and where roads are a myth...no comparison. Even in a collision - the toyota compares favourably with a beer can...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/25/2010 Posts: 939 Location: Nai
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if you know basic mechanic principles you can maintain a peugeot at home its undoing is its cooling system that thing can overheat seriously only need
to keep an eye and u good to go. you can fetch 300K if its in excellent condition
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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jamplu wrote:if you know basic mechanic principles you can maintain a peugeot at home its undoing is its cooling system that thing can overheat seriously only need
to keep an eye and u good to go. you can fetch 300K if its in excellent condition
In the four years I have had a 504 saloon I have not experienced cooling issues. Perhaps some owner do not bleed the cooling system properly i.e. - wait for engine to cool completely, - flip lever inside the car on dashboard to "hot" to allow the heater radiator to flow with the rest, - top up radiator, - open bleeding screw slowly and listen to the hissing as air comes out, then open completely and watch coolant flow until it no longer has bubbles - keep topping up radiator... - close bleeding screw tight. - Finally ensure the coolant is not all the way to the neck - it needs space for the watere to expand when it heats up. if you do not leave room for expansion - the radiator cap will give in to the pressure and release coolant when hot. If this happens, and then it is allowed to cool, it will suck in air - and there is the culprit. Also, 504's have been known as fast cars - but better not to stay at 100kph for sustained periods. I have driven 2000km (over 3-4 days) at an average of 80kph without looking at the radiator and on return the water level was fine. TLC...treat a 504 like a lady...and she will not let you down ;-)
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2008 Posts: 241
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I have tried to attach a picture of a 504 to no avail.....arrghhhh... Quote:Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
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iKenya wrote:I have tried to attach a picture of a 504 to no avail.....arrghhhh... I have never been able to attach a picture...and members should be thankful otherwise threads on airports, planes, plugs and sockets would go out of hand...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Djinn wrote:iKenya wrote:I have tried to attach a picture of a 504 to no avail.....arrghhhh... I have never been able to attach a picture...and members should be thankful otherwise threads on airports, planes, plugs and sockets would go out of hand... Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2008 Posts: 436 Location: illobi
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Looking for this beauty.... in good condition. 
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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K22 wrote:Looking for this beauty.... in good condition. Before or after it has been kissed by a Princess? He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 398 Location: Where everyone knows you
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Djinn wrote:jamplu wrote:if you know basic mechanic principles you can maintain a peugeot at home its undoing is its cooling system that thing can overheat seriously only need
to keep an eye and u good to go. you can fetch 300K if its in excellent condition
In the four years I have had a 504 saloon I have not experienced cooling issues. Perhaps some owner do not bleed the cooling system properly i.e. - wait for engine to cool completely, - flip lever inside the car on dashboard to "hot" to allow the heater radiator to flow with the rest, - top up radiator, - open bleeding screw slowly and listen to the hissing as air comes out, then open completely and watch coolant flow until it no longer has bubbles - keep topping up radiator... - close bleeding screw tight. - Finally ensure the coolant is not all the way to the neck - it needs space for the watere to expand when it heats up. if you do not leave room for expansion - the radiator cap will give in to the pressure and release coolant when hot. If this happens, and then it is allowed to cool, it will suck in air - and there is the culprit. Also, 504's have been known as fast cars - but better not to stay at 100kph for sustained periods. I have driven 2000km (over 3-4 days) at an average of 80kph without looking at the radiator and on return the water level was fine. TLC...treat a 504 like a lady...and she will not let you down ;-) I had a 504 for 4 years MANY years ago. Never had any heating problems. Plus it could be fixed anywhere in the bush. Great car. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/14/2009 Posts: 2,057
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flying squad may show some interest....... If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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Impunity wrote:Djinn wrote:iKenya wrote:I have tried to attach a picture of a 504 to no avail.....arrghhhh... I have never been able to attach a picture...and members should be thankful otherwise threads on airports, planes, plugs and sockets would go out of hand...  "Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/24/2007 Posts: 1,805
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2008 Posts: 241
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hehehe...perrrrfecttt...Jaluo Merce-dees, Five-Nothing-Four....yawaaa Quote:Buy when there's blood in the streets, even if the blood is your own...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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That shape only beats probox. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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Looks like parking mboys huko SA ripped off the left side mirror of this beauty..
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