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STOCK GURUS, IS THIS THE RIGHT TIME TO BUY STOCKS?
incognito
#21 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:44:40 AM
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Torrents are good. :) I have downloaded pdf copies of the "The Intelligent Investor" and "The Elements of Investing". Anyone needs a copy?

And if you need an EPUB version of the elements of investing, to read from your smartphone let me know.
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incognito
#22 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:06:14 AM
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underweight wrote:
@incognito, dont be overcautious. Ever heard of stop loss limit. I presume U can accept up to 20% that translates to 50K out of your 250. I suggest U put that cash in the following stock...Olympia, Sameer, Express Kenya, Eveready and Access Kenya. Get burned a little and appreciate the essence of doing on own research instead of going with the hype of wazua.


Ashante Underweight.
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underweight
#23 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2011 11:16:59 AM
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@incognito I guess U do play chess? No matter how many books you read on chess U'll never master it until U play it. Same applies to stocks. The players change but the rule remain the same. So start playing the game n U'll realise why we say never chase a moving bus or falling knife and how U can be lured into a suitable killing ground the way it happened to Britak and Trans-Century. Get to know the difference btn real rallies or sucker rally!
"A bad decision made now is beta that a good one made later!!"
Kaka M
#24 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:35:10 PM
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incognito wrote:
underweight wrote:
@incognito, dont be overcautious. Ever heard of stop loss limit. I presume U can accept up to 20% that translates to 50K out of your 250. I suggest U put that cash in the following stock...Olympia, Sameer, Express Kenya, Eveready and Access Kenya. Get burned a little and appreciate the essence of doing on own research instead of going with the hype of wazua.


Ashante Underweight.




Advising him to buy this is handing him a rope to hang himself with. @ Incognito IMHO u won't be burnt alittle with this choice u will be incinerated. Even the ashes will be burnt into gases. Am not so experienced but am thinking KCB, Equity, Kenolkobil. What have seen guys advice here is if a stock is going down buy a few and if it goes down further buy some more by the time it starts going up your average price is relatively low. I suggest u also decide on how long u r willing to wait and if you will sleep hungry as it were from the wait.I have been holding onto a stock for 4.5yrs and am still waiting(Experts may advice against this I think depending on your goals). There r also what experts call a stop loss positions.



earthvoice
#25 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:34:39 PM
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underweight wrote:
@incognito... I suggest U put that cash in the following stock...Olympia, Sameer, Express Kenya, Eveready and Access Kenya.

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
"All intelligent investing is value investing -- acquiring more than you are paying for. You must value the business in order to value the stock." - Charlie Munger.
gatoho
#26 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:48:39 PM
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incognito wrote:
Guru267, Impunity,Funky and Mainat...thanks mates. That is the wazua spirit. I appreciate. Keep the suggestions coming



You a Cockney Incognito.. the 'mates' sold it
Foresight..
QW25081985
#27 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:24:44 PM
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@incognito . firstly stop boring us with the 'thanks' in every post !!! its kind of shaddy....lol .
secondly . always be aware of the wazua hype . i have been here long enough to see guys lead one another like sheep into a slaughter house. the wazua HYPER is very bad. BEWARE .
The furthest suggestions in this forum shld come is to get you thinking.Thats all. Getting advice here and rushing to your broker is just suicidal.

DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK. If you think investing is just taking someones ideas and rushing to the broker i guess all of us would be Billionares.You get kmy point ????

Happy Investing
phantom
#28 Posted : Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:29:13 PM
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incognito wrote:
Torrents are good. :) I have downloaded pdf copies of the "The Intelligent Investor" and "The Elements of Investing". Anyone needs a copy?

And if you need an EPUB version of the elements of investing, to read from your smartphone let me know.

send them my way at oksombo(at)live.co.uk
Your boss's job is to give you a job. Its your job to make yourself rich
gatoho
#29 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 2:21:48 AM
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underweight wrote:
@incognito, dont be overcautious. Ever heard of stop loss limit. I presume U can accept up to 20% that translates to 50K out of your 250. I suggest U put that cash in the following stock...Olympia, Sameer, Express Kenya, Eveready and Access Kenya. Get burned a little and appreciate the essence of doing on own research instead of going with the hype of wazua.


No shit! they don't call you underweight for nothing..
Foresight..
trizher
#30 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 6:21:04 AM
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underweight wrote:
@incognito, dont be overcautious. Ever heard of stop loss limit. I presume U can accept up to 20% that translates to 50K out of your 250. I suggest U put that cash in the following stock...Olympia, Sameer, Express Kenya, Eveready and Access Kenya. Get burned a little and appreciate the essence of doing on own research instead of going with the hype of wazua.


Hunderweight....please be eazzy on guys bringing pesa kwa soko. Incognito...keep trying
...We do it for the $$$$!!
mkonomtupu
#31 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 9:45:15 AM
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I find this topic funny, when you say you are buying stocks it's like buying fish and the NSE is not a fish market. You are buying companies every time you buy a share ask yourself if you are prepared to buy the whole company, look at the fundamentals, the business environment, the revenue projections, dividend yields, the management and then look at the value, if it offers you value you buy whether the market is going up or down. You can't make money if you are not prepared to lose money. That's why i'm in the market every week buying companies which i feel are undervalued and every day they get cheaper i purchase a bigger stake.
coins
#32 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:36:47 AM
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please forward to me the intelligent investor.have been in stocks for over three yrs now may will borrow a leaf.
Cde Monomotapa
#33 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:46:52 AM
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QW25081985 wrote:
@incognito...the wazua HYPER is very bad. BEWARE.
The furthest suggestions in this forum shld come is to get you thinking.Thats all...DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK. If you think investing is just taking someones ideas and rushing to the broker i guess all of us would be Billionares.You get my point ????
Real talk.
Happy Investing

mashaa
#34 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:21:43 AM
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QW25081985 wrote:
@incognito . firstly stop boring us with the 'thanks' in every post !!! its kind of shaddy....lol .
secondly . always be aware of the wazua hype . i have been here long enough to see guys lead one another like sheep into a slaughter house. the wazua HYPER is very bad. BEWARE .
The furthest suggestions in this forum shld come is to get you thinking.Thats all. Getting advice here and rushing to your broker is just suicidal.

DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK. If you think investing is just taking someones ideas and rushing to the broker i guess all of us would be Billionares.You get kmy point ????

Happy Investing


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Courtesy is not BORING. Incognito was brought up well. Cant say that about you QW.
incognito
#35 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:37:12 AM
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mashaa wrote:
QW25081985 wrote:
@incognito . firstly stop boring us with the 'thanks' in every post !!! its kind of shaddy....lol .
secondly . always be aware of the wazua hype . i have been here long enough to see guys lead one another like sheep into a slaughter house. the wazua HYPER is very bad. BEWARE .
The furthest suggestions in this forum shld come is to get you thinking.Thats all. Getting advice here and rushing to your broker is just suicidal.

DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK. If you think investing is just taking someones ideas and rushing to the broker i guess all of us would be Billionares.You get kmy point ????

Happy Investing


Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Courtesy is not BORING. Incognito was brought up well. Cant say that about you QW.


Mashaa, Applause Applause ...Need i say more?

QW the caveat is welcome. I aint an absolute bum , i can competently filter "noise" from "advice". smile
Excelsior
incognito
#36 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:43:25 AM
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Kaka M wrote:
incognito wrote:
underweight wrote:
@incognito, dont be overcautious. Ever heard of stop loss limit. I presume U can accept up to 20% that translates to 50K out of your 250. I suggest U put that cash in the following stock...Olympia, Sameer, Express Kenya, Eveready and Access Kenya. Get burned a little and appreciate the essence of doing on own research instead of going with the hype of wazua.


Ashante Underweight.




Advising him to buy this is handing him a rope to hang himself with. @ Incognito IMHO u won't be burnt alittle with this choice u will be incinerated. Even the ashes will be burnt into gases. Am not so experienced but am thinking KCB, Equity, Kenolkobil. What have seen guys advice here is if a stock is going down buy a few and if it goes down further buy some more by the time it starts going up your average price is relatively low. I suggest u also decide on how long u r willing to wait and if you will sleep hungry as it were from the wait.I have been holding onto a stock for 4.5yrs and am still waiting(Experts may advice against this I think depending on your goals). There r also what experts call a stop loss positions.





Kaka, that is exactly what i intend to do. I'm biased towards banks. I will buy in bits as they go down...
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the deal
#37 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:50:11 AM
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@icognito by buying banks u have made your first wrong investment decision...Kenyan banks except Stan Chart and NBK have been hiding losses on their bond portfolio's...where there is smoke there is fire.
Cde Monomotapa
#38 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:58:10 AM
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the deal wrote:
@icognito by buying banks u have made your first wrong investment decision...Kenyan banks except Stan Chart and NBK have been hiding losses on their bond portfolio's...where there is smoke there is fire.

Realized or un-realized? I think the former will come forth in Q3.
incognito
#39 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:02:39 PM
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phantom wrote:
incognito wrote:
Torrents are good. :) I have downloaded pdf copies of the "The Intelligent Investor" and "The Elements of Investing". Anyone needs a copy?

And if you need an EPUB version of the elements of investing, to read from your smartphone let me know.

send them my way at oksombo(at)live.co.uk


Sent.
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the deal
#40 Posted : Thursday, September 01, 2011 12:16:45 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
the deal wrote:
@icognito by buying banks u have made your first wrong investment decision...Kenyan banks except Stan Chart and NBK have been hiding losses on their bond portfolio's...where there is smoke there is fire.

Realized or un-realized? I think the former will come forth in Q3.

Both...each quater them banksters are suppose to do mark to market valuations of their bond portfolios to see if there are any gains or losses..the gain/losses should reflect in P/L statement I.e Eqty Banks Sh21B G-sec hoard which was held for trading is now classified as held to maturity...when were valuations done? JM was silent on the issue during 1H release...if mark to valuations were done members profits would have plunged..call it the domino effect of toxic bonds...its a wait and see gamesmile
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