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Loreto Msongari Valley Road School Bus Crash
Gordon Gekko
#1 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2011 7:40:35 AM
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My heart goes out to all the girls and families of the Loreto Msongari Valley Road School. And the ones who survived, wish you quick recovery.

But as we mourn and empathize, we also need to ask some hard questions, like the Norwegians are now, in the aftermath of Andes Breivik.

I recall Abbas Gullet saying that 85 people were affected. It is also known from the OCPD of the area that there were only 3 people in the Kerugoya Bus. By simple deduction, the Loreto bus had 83 people. Which bus has a capacity of this nature in Kenya?

School buses are primarily configured for city travel, not inter-city travel. Should such buses undertake inter-city travel? I'm, sure the bus doesn't have seat belts, as these in my opinion and quite rightly are unnecessary for city shuttles, but cross country calls for seat belts. That is the reason why all those upcountry schools hire Easy Coach to ferry school children to the city, much as they have school buses.

So, what went wrong at Loreto, and what can we learn? I'm a parent and could have been one of the affected.
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#2 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2011 7:47:33 AM
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This was a very sad situation. My prayers are with the affected and a quick recovery
@GG, you raise something very critical, 83 in one bus!!!? and was the driver experienced in long distance travel? confession of the recovered student reveal that the problem started with the clutch before a complaint on the brake system...and was the travel late into the night? God bless the families and give them comfort...
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#3 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2011 4:38:29 PM
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My heartfelt condolences. I clinched hard as the girl recounted the events just before it happened "Poleni watoto" the driver was heard saying, to me this sounded as if the driver had raised the issue of a mechanical fault but somebody ignored him .
Am not sure how possible it is for parents to enforce that old worn out buses be disposed as they are mostly a disaster in the waiting.
How i now sit back and remember that old bus that i used for four years .Every so often ,it had to be in the garage before it could manage to take us anywhere,and even then we happily packed ourselves like sandwiches oblivious of the dangers.Interlocking on the benches ,to fill every precious space.
Thank God we survived,most of us did!
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#4 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2011 4:49:13 PM
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My heartfelt condolences to the victims and families of the students. I was also equally shocked when that girl on Citizen TV narrated the ordeal! Very chilling!!

@GG, is it true insurance firms allow school buses to carry excess students or is it only in primary schools?
Euge
#5 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2011 9:47:08 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
My heart goes out to all the girls and families of the Loreto Msongari Valley Road School. And the ones who survived, wish you quick recovery.

But as we mourn and empathize, we also need to ask some hard questions, like the Norwegians are now, in the aftermath of Andes Breivik.

I recall Abbas Gullet saying that 85 people were affected. It is also known from the OCPD of the area that there were only 3 people in the Kerugoya Bus. By simple deduction, the Loreto bus had 83 people. Which bus has a capacity of this nature in Kenya?

School buses are primarily configured for city travel, not inter-city travel. Should such buses undertake inter-city travel? I'm, sure the bus doesn't have seat belts, as these in my opinion and quite rightly are unnecessary for city shuttles, but cross country calls for seat belts. That is the reason why all those upcountry schools hire Easy Coach to ferry school children to the city, much as they have school buses.

So, what went wrong at Loreto, and what can we learn? I'm a parent and could have been one of the affected.


The school is called Loreto Convent Msongari. There is a different school called Loreto convent Valley Road and both institutions are run by the Loreto Sisters.

The TV narration by the student gives me an indication of negligence. If the bus was full of smoke from the clutch, why didn't the bus stop? I also wonder what the capacity of the bus is.

I pray for the little girls that they may speedily recover from the physical pain and from the trauma. And for their family and friends to remain strong and trust in the lord. For the 2 girls that have left us, that they may enjoy eternal happiness.
Lord, thank you!
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:52:41 AM
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Anyone been to Meru via Nanyuki? That's one treacherous section. The accident happened near the notorious Isiolo junction, an infamous blackspot, as the bus glided down the steep section (several kms, and I mean really long, winding, very steep n full of sharp corners)-a good explanation for the burnt out clutch n failed brakes for an overloaded bus, by a driver who possibly didnt know the route well. Ironically, the slope aint too apparent, more like the Kinungi. I bet he tried his best, coz knowing the place, only a few, if any, could have survived! Praise be to God.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 6:34:01 AM
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That was saaad. I pray that God gives strength to the survivors and the relatives.I do not doubt the drivers competence. Vehicles do fail. Lakini 80 pax?
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 6:53:37 AM
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This is so sad..i hope someone is held responsible..we must say no to impunity!
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:01:06 AM
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my condolences goes out to the two families who lost their daughters.We need to improve the situation on our roads
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:26:25 PM
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Very sad event there. I have used that road quite a number of times. The road is a steady decent from Timau but get even worse froma a point called Kisima where there is a 'Caltex' ( it was still caltex by my last visit) petrol station. The road decends from Kisima to the Isiolo Junction ( near the hill called Subuiga or something) The decent slows at a junction called Kiirua and eventually stops at Makutano. I am giving this detail so that those who have not been there have a glimpse of how long the decent is and how easy it is for a heavy vehicle to be unable to stop despite the presence of a few bumps. I suspect the bus was overloaded, the brakes may not have been faulty at the start of the journey but the continual braking must have heated up the drums. I do not know if it had the pressure breaks which come in very handy at such places where you need to slow down a heavy truck but cannot afford to use the foot brake system. In that decent, once a bus hits a speed of above 40 KPH, and is overloaded, it is almost impossible to stop it. It just gains and gains speed. I think it is at this point teh driver said pole watoto and new his only hope was to veer off the road and have the bus stopped by some roadside gardens that exist there. Only to find a stalled bus on the road while he was trying to control his.

As mentioned earlier, someone needs to answer for the overloading ( driver included) and of there were seat belts. Perhaps they could have saved the girl who lost her hand.... wawawa that was bad.. imagine a kid asking a friend..' where is my hand?'....

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:16:24 PM
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I have used this road numerous of time by bus normally ...I heard one of the survivors claim there was a strong smell of clutch burning,,,this might be the reason for the accident..the driver tried to engage a low gear....which many buses engage just b4 ascending the subuiga hill...if you are late and you try to engage it on the hill itself then be prepared to drive at high speed as this will fail...breaks will also not help as they will overheat...the only way the driver could have avoided this collision was by Gods grace.

overloading might not be the case as it was a long trip and any student will raise this issue...Signage is the only thing that can be blamed on this accident...its hard to know how steep the subuiga hill is unless you are on it.
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Euge
#12 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 9:02:56 PM
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I went to Nairobi Hospital and met some girls who are still admitted there. I hear some others are in KNH. I was moved to tears after seeing two girls who lost both their arms.
Lord, thank you!
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