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Mumias 2011 results
youcan'tstopusnow
#21 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 1:53:57 PM
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Was there any mention of TARDA? And why is the govt. delaying the privatisation?
What will be the impact of the current sugar shortage?
Very important questions...
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Cde Monomotapa
#22 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 1:57:51 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
@ycsun nkt! Are U evolving into another @deal? Please don't...

Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly Weka link!

:-P
Cde Monomotapa
#23 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 2:00:44 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Was there any mention of TARDA? And why is the govt. delaying the privatisation?
What will be the impact of the current sugar shortage?
Very important questions...

MSC investors can count on international sugar prices remaining high OTW it will be raining COMESA sugar here in the event there is no extension.
QW25071985
#24 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 2:03:17 PM
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lol. the current rally shld enable you to exit if you bought at 9 bob . no time for investing now .
in forex we say selling into the rally...
the deal
#25 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 2:03:50 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
@ycsun nkt! Are U evolving into another @deal? Please don't...

Laughing out loudlyLaughing out loudlyLaughing out loudly Weka link!

:-P

Cheer leadersLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly last Friday when i said i was bullish on Sukari...they called me all kinds of names...well I'm always here...i love it when you eat the dust...now lets wait to see if KCB will ever reach 32 Bob...my thinking is...i'm not far from buying it from 17 bob..processes and events...smile
Cde Monomotapa
#26 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 2:04:56 PM
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MSC is back in production but the dealers need to stop inflating the commodity. They want to print the RRP on the packs. Should help smile
Gordon Gekko
#27 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 2:14:41 PM
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QW25071985 wrote:
lol. the current rally shld enable you to exit if you bought at 9 bob . no time for investing now .
in forex we say selling into the rally...


Sure hope so, then my losses will come to a respectable 30%
youcan'tstopusnow
#28 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 2:20:05 PM
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deal, very hard to keep track of what you say nowadays. REAL TALK!
And those who called you names (I didn't) were doing so because of the NSE 20 thing, plus your deceit and braggadocio. No one called you names cause of Mumias. And on that matter, you were the BIGGEST name-caller of all
Cde and Ice Cube would tell you, ''you better check yourself before you wreck yourself''
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Cde Monomotapa
#29 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 2:54:21 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
deal, very hard to keep track of what you say nowadays. REAL TALK!
And those who called you names (I didn't) were doing so because of the NSE 20 thing, plus your deceit and braggadocio. No one called you names cause of Mumias. And on that matter, you were the BIGGEST name-caller of all
Cde and Ice Cube would tell you, ''you better check yourself before you wreck yourself''

"Coz shotgun shells r bad for your health..." wewe ndo unajua boss!!
the deal
#30 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 2:57:30 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
deal, very hard to keep track of what you say nowadays. REAL TALK!
And those who called you names (I didn't) were doing so because of the NSE 20 thing, plus your deceit and braggadocio. No one called you names cause of Mumias. And on that matter, you were the BIGGEST name-caller of all
Cde and Ice Cube would tell you, ''you better check yourself before you wreck yourself''

"Coz shotgun shells r bad for your health..." wewe ndo unajua boss!!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you are my bro's and sisto's...i give my best hear http://contrarianinvestingkenya.info on Wazua i might say unnecessary stuff...once i'm done promoting my site..i will shut upsmile
Cde Monomotapa
#31 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 3:04:07 PM
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@deal..just go easy on the rolling stone stuff and work fast but slowly. I've never met U in person but I can tell U r a really hyper dude which is fine socially but when it comes to the biz just work keenly. That's all. I might take ur write ups more seriously thereafter.
youcan'tstopusnow
#32 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 3:07:12 PM
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Laughing out loudlySawa bro. Let's get this paper!
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Cde Monomotapa
#33 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 3:07:46 PM
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Oh yes QW is yet another hyper (reckless even) dude i've never met but u can tell he is keen when it comes to the biz, results aside smile
QW25071985
#34 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 3:21:58 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Oh yes QW is yet another hyper (reckless even) dude i've never met but u can tell he is keen when it comes to the biz, results aside smile


i amnt a hoax or a hyper ....lol. nowaddays you seem to be hating everybdy in wazua wats up ...you bought britak or what , lol or KenGen giving you the stress...lol .
cool down man,
this market is very hard to dissect man and i do my very best to give accurate info..
the deal
#35 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 3:25:57 PM
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My Analysis...on the MSC numbers..

Superb numbers from Mumias Sugar, the results are in line with my expectations, at the prevailing price of Sh6.35, dividend yield comes in around 7.9%, trailing PE is 5 which is quiet cheap. The only drawback from these results are the operating figures, sugar output for the year 2011/2012 remained stagnant at 235K MT (235K 2009/2010), management earlier this year said sugar output will rise to 250K MT during the current financial year therefore I attribute the rise in profits to high global sugar prices. Electricity sales were stagnant at Sh353M (Sh320M 2010) despite an improved deal from Kenya Power, I attribute that to low sugar output.

Read more http://www.contrarianinv...p-by-21-outlook-dim.html
Cde Monomotapa
#36 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 3:27:14 PM
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QW25071985 wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Oh yes QW is yet another hyper (reckless even) dude i've never met but u can tell he is keen when it comes to the biz, results aside smile


i amnt a hoax or a hyper ....lol. nowaddays you seem to be hating everybdy in wazua wats up ...you bought britak or what , lol or KenGen giving you the stress...lol .
cool down man,
this market is very hard to dissect man and i do my very best to give accurate info..

"...but u can tell he is keen when it comes to the biz, results aside smile" see what i'm saying? U missed that part, LoL!! No beef with nobody man...but they better be on point with their research, si pupa za media.
underweight
#37 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 4:46:56 PM
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Don't be in a hurry to get the dividend now. Rem the book closure is 4th Nov and definitely there is going to be price swing especially tending south making the dividend yield higher than at the current price. We are in a bear market and you'll be surprised how greed can blinden some of us. Take a look at all the companies that announced good results with handsome dividend of late. The price rose profit takers and salvages did their part and down the share went. The same will happen to mumias sugar. So cash out or salvage out and buy later at a cheaper price
"A bad decision made now is beta that a good one made later!!"
Realtreaty
#38 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 6:22:25 PM
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Thanks, I was persecuted and thrown through the window to fall on a hard ground but settled on a sponge.Applause Applause Applause Applause smile
VituVingiSana
#39 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 7:20:18 PM
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So what do we expect for the CURRENT Financial Year for Mumias?

1) Low cane supplies = low sugar production
2) Low cane supplies = high fixed costs/kg
3) Low cane supplies = no bagasse for electricity production
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
For Sport
#40 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 7:35:16 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
So what do we expect for the CURRENT Financial Year for Mumias?

1) Low cane supplies = low sugar production
2) Low cane supplies = high fixed costs/kg
3) Low cane supplies = no bagasse for electricity production


will the price of sugar remain fixed?
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