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Kihangeri
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:41:56 PM
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This is what the chinese think of americans.

After Standard & Poor's downgraded Washington's top notch credit rating this month, some Chinese have shown scorn for Americans they see as spending money before they earn it.

"They should just buy what they can pay for," said Zhao Kai, a Beijing resident, explaining that like many Chinese people he "prefers to pay cash and does not like being in debt".

According to Forbes magazine, the average Chinese household had debts worth just 17 percent of its annual income last year, against 136 percent in the United States.


http://www.terradaily.co...nese_consumers_999.html

That is why I don't get it when I hear an African supporting American culture.
By inference, the man is all that Mr Phantom is not: an untrustworthy radical, divisive, too many enemies, a dictator, and a persistent liar...
Gaitho dialogues.


Kihangeri
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:01:06 PM
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Spurred on by state media which have let rip at the "debt-riddled" United States, the Chinese have listened with wide-eyed amazement to tales of American people living well beyond their means.

The US credit crisis has brought to light a fundamental difference between thrifty consumers in China -- the largest foreign holder of US debt -- and their credit-loving US counterparts.
By inference, the man is all that Mr Phantom is not: an untrustworthy radical, divisive, too many enemies, a dictator, and a persistent liar...
Gaitho dialogues.


Kihangeri
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:08:38 PM
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Chinese consumers' aversion to credit is so big that some high-rollers have been known to pay for hugely expensive items in cash.

In the eastern city of Qingdao, for instance, one investor famously bought an 80-million-yuan building with wads of cash in 2009.
By inference, the man is all that Mr Phantom is not: an untrustworthy radical, divisive, too many enemies, a dictator, and a persistent liar...
Gaitho dialogues.


bwenyenye
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:21:53 PM
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Me thinks the American economy will crush the day they default to pay China. That day is not too far off!
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Shak
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:11:19 PM
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What happened to the principle pf spending less than you earn? There's something wrong with america's brand of economics
2 Miles
#6 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2011 10:39:52 AM
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Though I stand to be corrected, does it really make sense to incurr debt, to purchase consumer goods. In the long run, there is goin to be a problem. Consumer goods don't generate income. Normally, debt was being incurred to purchase capital goods. Capital goods generate income. Remember debt has interest. But that has been changing slowly in the US. But a new culture is surely taking over. Debt being incurred just to purchase consumer goods ( fancy houses, posh cars and even holidays). Something is wrong with such a system. A problem is bound to occur sometime soon. When America defaults on Chinese Debt, I will not be surprised.
luxel
#7 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:39:08 PM
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There is nothing wrong with the american system. It is not like americans are idle waiting for the govt. to borrow and they consume the same, remember there are industries in america for products and services which are generating wealth. This wealth will be taxed and repay the debt in future as they continue enjoying themselves.

If you landed a job earning a million a month, you could either borrow money and move to karen upon confirmation (american style) or start saving for the next 10 years to move then (chinese style). At the end of the day you will both own a house in karen but the american will have stayed there longer (raise a family) while the chinese will be retiring in karen (what for?).

I prefer the american style.
bwenyenye
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:15:16 PM
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luxel wrote:


If you landed a job earning a million a month, you could either borrow money and move to karen upon confirmation (american style) or start saving for the next 10 years to move then (chinese style). At the end of the day you will both own a house in karen but the american will have stayed there longer (raise a family) while the chinese will be retiring in karen (what for?).

I prefer the american style.


Have you considered that the american will pay four times the price for the same property due to the 40 year mortgage while by the time the Chinesman saves, it will have gone up 30%. Who is smarter now...

I do not get your earlier point that corporate tax @ 40% of profits will be enough to pay for the chinamans loan. Please explain that to me pole pole.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:31:34 PM
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bwenyenye wrote:
luxel wrote:


If you landed a job earning a million a month, you could either borrow money and move to karen upon confirmation (american style) or start saving for the next 10 years to move then (chinese style). At the end of the day you will both own a house in karen but the american will have stayed there longer (raise a family) while the chinese will be retiring in karen (what for?).

I prefer the american style.


Have you considered that the american will pay four times the price for the same property due to the 40 year mortgage while by the time the Chinesman saves, it will have gone up 30%. Who is smarter now...

I do not get your earlier point that corporate tax @ 40% of profits will be enough to pay for the chinamans loan. Please explain that to me pole pole.


@Bwenyenye, the chinese is the fool, have you considered that the American will have used the house throughout the 40 years while the chinese will have to wait, probably paying rent elsewhere.

The problem with the US is not the people living beyond their means but the fact that they are moving too many jobs to China, if they can create the low end jobs to keep the masses employed, they will not need to worry about debt, however if they continue to outsource, then they can forget about ever reducing govt expenditure and cutting debt.

By the way, at some point, the US will default on its debt and the Chinese will have no choice but to write off the entire amount to ensure their favourite customers keep buying the giant flat screens that keep their labour force employed.
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mpobiz
#10 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2011 8:33:56 AM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
bwenyenye wrote:
luxel wrote:


If you landed a job earning a million a month, you could either borrow money and move to karen upon confirmation (american style) or start saving for the next 10 years to move then (chinese style). At the end of the day you will both own a house in karen but the american will have stayed there longer (raise a family) while the chinese will be retiring in karen (what for?).

I prefer the american style.


Have you considered that the american will pay four times the price for the same property due to the 40 year mortgage while by the time the Chinesman saves, it will have gone up 30%. Who is smarter now...

I do not get your earlier point that corporate tax @ 40% of profits will be enough to pay for the chinamans loan. Please explain that to me pole pole.


@Bwenyenye, the chinese is the fool, have you considered that the American will have used the house throughout the 40 years while the chinese will have to wait, probably paying rent elsewhere.

The problem with the US is not the people living beyond their means but the fact that they are moving too many jobs to China, if they can create the low end jobs to keep the masses employed, they will not need to worry about debt, however if they continue to outsource, then they can forget about ever reducing govt expenditure and cutting debt.

By the way, at some point, the US will default on its debt and the Chinese will have no choice but to write off the entire amount to ensure their favourite customers keep buying the giant flat screens that keep their labour force employed.



i agree totally.. your time is now you dont know of tomorrow
about the US default on its debt i dont see it happening they will print more dollars and pay off the chinese. this will devalue the dollar to the yuan making chinese goods more expensive causing massive layoffs in china.. but china doesnt want that to happen so a debt write off is the best solution. i stand to be corrected kweri ama sio kweri?
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